sixers will make a serious run at deron williams and dwight this offseason

[kingofnyc]

I kinda agree.

What could the Nets offer? Brook + Brooks? It hasn't made any sense what they've done and in hindsight, both the Deron Williams AND Gerald Wallace trades have turned out to be completely retarded for them with no long term vision at all. They are down to Marshon Brooks and Gerald Green as their two most important players and don't even have a 1st rounder this year.

That's why it'd almost have to be the Lakers or Knicks as kind of an underdog.

The Knicks probably wouldn't do Melo + Chandler for Dwight right now.

But Bynum and and an expiring for Dwight and Hedo would be done tomorrow if Orlando could. Whether Bynum is the better player or not, he's pretty damn close and starting to attract some media attention. His stock has definitly rised and he's now being taken very seriously by the league.

dis iz what u don't understand, ORL has no leverage
D12 can simply say I'm not signing an extension with dem other teams -so unless they wanna rent him for a year

 

[Since '86]

I dont know if playing for new yorks second tier franchise is the end all be all.

And playing in NY's second tier franchise is still better than playing in Philly.

 

[Kang Deezy]

Teams would still offer better than your package on the hope they could change his mind, and some might even be okay with just a one year rental.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

i dont think its impossible, anything is possible

i just think other teams have better packages

i still think blake griffen and scrub to match salaries for dwight is the best deal for both clippers and orlando.

i still think bynum for dwight is still better than that proposed philly package even though bynum might have killed some of his value this post season.

i still think deng and noah and picks is better because them plus the rest of the players in orlando keeps them a playoff team and noah is easy to sale to the orlando fanbase considering he won 2 national titles down there.

i think new jersey lost a bit of they chances by not getting that top 3 pick but still is a player in getting dwight because as for now deron is still there and can easily resign. \

any team can call out some "young" talent they can throw at orlando for dwight.

sacremento could be talking cousin, tyreke. golden state could be talking curry and bogut. those are just examples.

but where dwight would resign long term plays a huge part. and what players orlando can sell to they fanbase is another factor. you just cant sell orlando on evan turner and young.

but of course thats just my opinion ive seen crazier things happen so meh

 

[Kang Deezy]

i dont think its impossible, anything is possible

i just think other teams have better packages

i still think blake griffen and scrub to match salaries for dwight is the best deal for both clippers and orlando.

i still think bynum for dwight is still better than that proposed philly package even though bynum might have killed some of his value this post season.

i still think deng and noah and picks is better because them plus the rest of the players in orlando keeps them a playoff team and noah is easy to sale to the orlando fanbase considering he won 2 national titles down there.

i think new jersey lost a bit of they chances by not getting that top 3 pick but still is a player in getting dwight because as for now deron is still there and can easily resign. \

any team can call out some "young" talent they can throw at orlando for dwight.

sacremento could be talking cousin, tyreke. golden state could be talking curry and bogut. those are just examples.

but where dwight would resign long term plays a huge part. and what players orlando can sell to they fanbase is another factor. you just cant sell orlando on evan turner and young.

but of course thats just my opinion ive seen crazier things happen so meh

I'd be shocked if the Clippers traded Blake Griffin though, there's probably only one or two players tops in the league they'd trade him for.

Noah and Deng doesn't knock my socks off. Noah is what he is, and Deng isn't a franchise player. He's your 3rd best player on a championship team.

Cousins and Tyreke is possible, they definitly want to move Tyreke.

Bogut and Curry? I wouldn't want that if I were Orlando, with how injury prone they both are that has potential to blow up in your face bigtime. I'd want Klay Thompson and the #7 pick too.

 

[tremonthustler1]

any team can call out some "young" talent they can throw at orlando for dwight.

sacremento could be talking cousin, tyreke. golden state could be talking curry and bogut. those are just examples.

but where dwight would resign long term plays a huge part. and what players orlando can sell to they fanbase is another factor. you just cant sell orlando on evan turner and young.

but of course thats just my opinion ive seen crazier things happen so meh

Exactly. My team could offer Pekovic, Williams, a S&T'd Beasley and 2 firsts, but that's not gonna mean Dwight's gonna be down to play alongside Love and Rubio, so they won't make that offer, and many teams that can offer rebuild starter kits like that most likely won't kick the tires on Dwight.

Conceivably any Clipper deal involving Blake Griffin works because they can offer him a 5 year extension, so Orlando's face of the franchise would be set for a long time.

 

[Kang Deezy]

Exactly. My team could offer Pekovic, Williams, a S&T'd Beasley and 2 firsts, but that's not gonna mean Dwight's gonna be down to play alongside Love and Rubio, so they won't make that offer, and many teams that can offer rebuild starter kits like that most likely won't kick the tires on Dwight.

Conceivably any Clipper deal involving Blake Griffin works because they can offer him a 5 year extension, so Orlando's face of the franchise would be set for a long time.

I think even though Dwight is the better player, I just couldn't see them trading Blake. Blake would have to publically come out and say no matter what he's not resigning and that doesn't seem anywhere close to being the case. I see no reason he doesn't sign an extension with them.

Why wouldn't Dwight be good with Love and Rubio?

Love is a pretty good compliment to Dwight cause he can just shoot jumpers all day efficiencly and space out the floor. Dwight would make up for Love's defense

Rubio would be throwing alley oops to him all day

Minnesota would have to take on Hedo's contract

 

[tremonthustler1]

Why wouldn't Dwight be good with Love and Rubio?

Love is a pretty good compliment to Dwight cause he can just shoot jumpers all day efficiencly and space out the floor. Dwight would make up for Love's defense

Rubio would be throwing alley oops to him all day

Minnesota would have to take on Hedo's contract

I'm not saying he wouldn't. If anything if not for it being Minneapolis, he'd probably wanna join Love/Rubio /Adelman, but he wouldn't stick around for that given where it is. It was just an example, but if offered, Minny would do it and take Turkoglu, J-Rich and Duhon if they had to.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

I'd be shocked if the Clippers traded Blake Griffin though, there's probably only one or two players tops in the league they'd trade him for.

Noah and Deng doesn't knock my socks off. Noah is what he is, and Deng isn't a franchise player. He's your 3rd best player on a championship team.

Cousins and Tyreke is possible, they definitly want to move Tyreke.

Bogut and Curry? I wouldn't want that if I were Orlando, with how injury prone they both are that has potential to blow up in your face bigtime. I'd want Klay Thompson and the #7 pick too.

read what i said in context on that part. i wasnt saying those were possibilities i said that many teams can throw out names of young players since goodman premises in this is that philly has young talent, i was just saying damn near every team in the league could make that same claim.

clippers would be stupid especially after this post season to not think that dwight and cp3 gives them a better chance at a title than blake and cp3. and blake sells tickets for orlando. that imo is still the best deal on the table

because noah and deng dont do anything for you dont mean that they dont do something for orlando. and again those two plus jameer, jrich, ryan anderson, big baby etc keeps orlando a playoff team with the right coaching of course, thats something you can sell to a fan base. but thats still 3rd behind the clipper and laker deal. i put the noah and deng scenario over the nets deal immediately after they struck out in the lottery.

 

[john goodman]

philly has young talent, i was just saying damn near every team in the league could make that same claim.

Yes but not every team

1. Has the capacity to also sign deron

2. Is a top 5 market

3. Is on the east coast

4. Has a really good supporting cast in place

5. Is a historic nba "power" franchise

 

[cornercommission2k12]

Exactly. My team could offer Pekovic, Williams, a S&T'd Beasley and 2 firsts, but that's not gonna mean Dwight's gonna be down to play alongside Love and Rubio, so they won't make that offer, and many teams that can offer rebuild starter kits like that most likely won't kick the tires on Dwight.

Conceivably any Clipper deal involving Blake Griffin works because they can offer him a 5 year extension, so Orlando's face of the franchise would be set for a long time.

thats all i was saying that the other poster missed

every team in the league can offer "young talent" so what makes the philly deal so special?

i still think the clipper deal is the best, makes so much sense for both sides. blake only in his 2nd season, they wont miss him much, especially when they see cp3 and dwight in the top 3 in the west for years. and orlando has a star they can sell the franchise on and sell tickets. blake keeps them on espn and tnt.

 

[kingofnyc]

at y'all talking D12 trade scenario with teams he not gonna sign with

He not gonna go thru all dat drama again -cuz every day he will asked over & over & over on him signing a extension with dat team

Itz just stupid for an organization to go thur all dat nonsense unless ur da ny jets

 

[Kang Deezy]

ff

 

[Kang Deezy]

read what i said in context on that part. i wasnt saying those were possibilities i said that many teams can throw out names of young players since goodman premises in this is that philly has young talent, i was just saying damn near every team in the league could make that same claim.

clippers would be stupid especially after this post season to not think that dwight and cp3 gives them a better chance at a title than blake and cp3. and blake sells tickets for orlando. that imo is still the best deal on the table

because noah and deng dont do anything for you dont mean that they dont do something for orlando. and again those two plus jameer, jrich, ryan anderson, big baby etc keeps orlando a playoff team with the right coaching of course, thats something you can sell to a fan base. but thats still 3rd behind the clipper and laker deal. i put the noah and deng scenario over the nets deal immediately after they struck out in the lottery.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

Yes but not every team

1. Has the capacity to also sign deron

2. Is a top 5 market

3. Is on the east coast

4. Has a really good supporting cast in place

5. Is a historic nba "power" franchise

and again everything you saying is what plenty of other teams can claim. plenty of teams can say they have young talent to offer. plenty of teams can say we can amnesty this person, trade that person and get enough cap room. plenty of teams can be "historic" and "powerful if you mean getting to the playoffs makes you powerful.

all that you said can be said for the pacers. they can talk roy hibbert, danny granger and george hill for dwight and hedo. and they could still make moves to sign deron since they under the cap currently. they would still have david west and paul george on the roster plus a decent bench. that deal sounds better than what philly can offer

but dwight aint going to indiana. thats the problem. again many of these same scenarios can be said for plenty of teams.