Slavery was Capitalism's best friend

[MajorVitaman]

seems to me we have to come up with our own. the same way someone came up with capitalism, socialism, communism. there's room for another ...ism. lol. Do i know what that is right off top?NOPE. would i be willing to bet we could come up with something better? yep. but now Better is subjective. I didnt say better at making the bottom line $$$$$. the question starts first is. whats this new systems Bottom LINE. what do we want to accomplish? GET MONEY? what? BE happy(a very nice work life balance?). a shot for everyone to make it BIG or into the middle class? a shot for a few to make it big with the illusion of everyone can make it big? The bottom line has to be established first.

so we're just gonna keep taking L's until some magic white man thinks of a new -ism for us to put all our faith in?















I'm good breh, I'll focus on getting my $$$ up to build for the local community I live in until they come up with some new shyt

 

[MajorVitaman]

None. I agree. But is that evidence that Afrikans do not oppress other Afrikans without cac intervention?

Where has this ever happened though?

Everywhere in the world where black folks are living fukked up there's ALWAYS some rich cac, khazar or sand cac in the background up the bullshyt & real good...

 

[DEAD7]

It is incredibly disingenuous that you keep trying to paint Marx or the left as being racist or at best passive supporters of racism when I provided textual, theoretical, historical, and actual present-day examples to the contrary several times in the past.

 

[JahFocus CS]

Which countries specifically?

What's the alternative?

Any of the Afrikan countries with a cac population of less than 1% Since you keep harping on specific countries for some reason, you can start with Tanzania, Kenya, and Nigeria.

The alternative is the working class, regardless of race, struggling to free itself as a class and abolishing racism in the process.

 

[MajorVitaman]

Any of the Afrikan countries with a cac population of less than 1% Since you keep harping on specific countries for some reason, you can start with Tanzania, Kenya, and Nigeria.

The alternative is the working class, regardless of race, struggling to free itself as a class and abolishing racism in the process.

Nigeria, Kenya & Tanzania didn't get effected from European & Arabic imperialism, enslavement, genocide and Berlin conference?

 

[DEAD7]

I'm at work dying
The fluidity in which the term "cac" is used now in HL has me

 

[JahFocus CS]

Where has this ever happened though?

Everywhere in the world where black folks are living fukked up there's ALWAYS some rich cac, khazar or sand cac in the background up the bullshyt & real good...

So societies in Africa were perfect paradises (save for technology) prior to the 600s? That would be well before any "rich cac, khazar or sand cac" intervention. Many African societies weren't directly impacted by cacs until the 1700s/1800s too.

 

[rapbeats]

None. I agree. But is that evidence that Afrikans do not oppress other Afrikans without cac intervention?

we know everyone has oppressed everyone throughout history at some point. and it first started with your own brotha obviously since you two are in such close proximity to one another. But, we will never know what Africa the continent of many countries would've been like without that Euro influence. maybe the oppression they had going prior to that wasnt nearly as bad. perhaps it would've died out once everyone would've come into the industrial age. sure there would've still been some people trying to rule over people and pull snake moves. but would be nearly as bad as it is now post euro influence in that region? I dont know.

 

[MajorVitaman]

So societies in Africa were perfect paradises (save for technology) prior to the 600s? That would be well before any "rich cac, khazar or sand cac" intervention. Many African societies weren't directly impacted by cacs until the 1700s/1800s too.

Those civilizations still got effected though lol


I never said that breh. And you're forgetting all the NileValley invasions from 525BC-600AD...

We've been getting finessed from foreigners for over 2,500 years...

Now if you're talking about an alternative from an ancient Afrikan kingdoms that had enough wealth to allow citizens to use golden tweezers for thousands of years I'm all ears
...


I'll probably get called a "hotep nikka" round these parts for that suggestion though

 

[rapbeats]

so we're just gonna keep taking L's until some magic white man thinks of a new -ism for us to put all our faith in?















I'm good breh, I'll focus on getting my $$$ up to build for the local community I live in until they come up with some new shyt

wait who said we will keep talking L's because i didnt have a 10 part planned lined out today? and no one said you should go homeless and spit that talky talk on 125th and give up your $$$. i aint no fool now. i live where i live and i have to be real about where i live in todays society and work accordingly. BUT...i also dont have to overly fantasize about how great Capitalism is knowing good and well how it blew up in the real world not in a book about the theory of it.

 

[MajorVitaman]

wait who said we will keep talking L's because i didnt have a 10 part planned lined out today? and no one said you should go homeless and spit that talky talk on 125th and give up your $$$. i aint no fool now. i live where i live and i have to be real about where i live in todays society and work accordingly. BUT...i also dont have to overly fantasize about how great Capitalism is knowing good and well how it blew up in the real world not in a book about the theory of it.

Nobody is saying capitalism is some great system lol. We're just being realistic in how we can win without all these fantasy land alternatives that never seems to work when practiced.

 

[JahFocus CS]

Those civilizations still got effected though lol


Lol I never said that breh. And you're forgetting all the NileValley invasions from 525BC-600AD...

We've been getting finessed from foreigners for over 2,500 years...

Now if you're talking about an alternative from an ancient Afrikan kingdoms that had enough wealth to allow citizens to use golden tweezers for thousands of years I'm all ears
...


I'll probably get called a "hotep nikka" round these parts for that suggestion though

Your problem is that you think of race as some fact of nature, some eternal truth with racial conflict animating history. That's the cac narrative and and white racists would strongly agree with you.

What is the Afrikan kingdom you're referring to and how did the king live vs. how the underclass lived? How were women treated? Were neighboring communities/polities raided for slaves and resources?

We have the possibility in today's day and age to move beyond oppression and these parochial focuses, but for some reason people rather focus on ancient history and act like events of almost 3,000 years ago have a real impact on the forces affecting their lives today.

 

[JahFocus CS]

Nobody is saying capitalism is some great system lol. We're just being realistic in how we can win without all these fantasy land alternatives that never seems to work when practiced.

How is capitalism "working" for the billions of people around the world today struggling to survive? That "billions" figure includes over a billion Afrikans by the way.

Is a system being "stable" your criteria for "working?" Because capitalism isn't even stable given the crises it brings upon itself every other business cycle.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Slavery wasn't that bad.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Slavery is just another word for forced labor.