Slavery was Capitalism's best friend

[MajorVitaman]

Your problem is that you think of race as some fact of nature, some eternal truth with racial conflict animating history. That's the cac narrative and and white racists would strongly agree with you.

What is the Afrikan kingdom you're referring to and how did the king live vs. how the underclass lived? How were women treated? Were neighboring communities/polities raided for slaves and resources?

We have the possibility in today's day and age to move beyond oppression and these parochial focuses, but for some reason people rather focus on ancient history and act like events of almost 3,000 years ago have a real impact on the forces affecting their lives today.

So race doesn't matter anymore?
how is that a cac narrative to understand the role cacs have had in their entire history with black people world wide?

Wars have always been a part of life man, idk why you think people are gonna start playing nice. Why do we always gotta be the ones to turn the other cheek all the time?

How is capitalism "working" for the billions of people around the world today struggling to survive? That "billions" figure includes over a billion Afrikans by the way.

Is a system being "stable" your criteria for "working?" Because capitalism isn't even stable given the crises it brings upon itself every other business cycle.

Again, I never said capitalism is perfect, I understand that's the system we live in though. Whats the alternative? If the world is playing chess what I look like bringing monopoly out?

 

[theworldismine13]

This man said slavery is not good enough reason. LOL.
Really.

I never once mentioned socialism. so what made you go there? Trying to jump the argument before its presented i assume.

It's real simple to me. We're talking about capitalism and nothing else. i dont want you to get confused with other theories at the moment. keep your focus on capitalism.

What do we know so far when it comes to blacks/people of color and capitalism? Has it worked for us as a whole? HELL NO.

now sure i can show a very very very very small example of a small group of blacks/people of color in america and on earth that have benefitted greatly due to capitalism. But for the most part. We can all agree overall, it hasnt treated black folks/people of color all that well. So why would a black person/person of color keep pushing something that has for the most part NEVER worked for people that look like them? Please explain @theworldismine13 **do not bring up other systems. just stick to the question at hand please.***

well if you want to have a discussion about just capitalism then you have to start by posting an article that IS NOT from a website called socialistworker.org, how about we start there

my point is that capitalism is just a tool, just like a gun or a ship, black people lacking guns and ships is what led to out situation, so from my pov what you are saying is that white people used guns and ships to enslave and oppress black people so therefore we as black people are going to stay away from guns and ships, which is a dumb idea imo

also im not looking for a system that treats black people well, that itself (looking for a system that treats black people well) is a sign of intellectual weakness and femininity that black people, especially black males such as yourself, need to stop engaging in

we are looking for a system that will increase our power and crush our enemies, im simply saying guns and ships and capitalism are tools we need to do that

show me system that will allow us to crush our enemies then we can talk, if not you are just engaging in feminine, slave like babbling

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

So race doesn't matter anymore?
how is that a cac narrative to understand the role cacs have had in their entire history with black people world wide?

Wars have always been a part of life man, idk why you think people are gonna start playing nice. Why do we always gotta be the ones to turn the other cheek all the time?



Again, I never said capitalism is perfect, I understand that's the system we live in though. Whats the alternative? If the world is playing chess what I look like bringing monopoly out?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

How is capitalism "working" for the billions of people around the world today struggling to survive? That "billions" figure includes over a billion Afrikans by the way.

Is a system being "stable" your criteria for "working?" Because capitalism isn't even stable given the crises it brings upon itself every other business cycle.

Capitalism is working GREAT actually.

Its raised more people out of poverty and granted millions with the chance to chart their own fortunes, many with great success.

Of course there should be improvements, but to act like there isn't a spirit of enterprise in Africa is dumb as hell

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Aren't we all slaves at the end of the day? To a language, to a country, an idea even?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

"My mom told me to clean my room. What a slave master" - @rapbeats

 

[Thabo]

That's what happens in the free market. Read up on Ha Joon Chang fore more details

 

[88m3]

@DEAD7 come get your boy

 

[NERO]

capitalism being tied to slavery is not good of enough reason to try dismiss capitalism, because capitalism is the only way black people will ever come up economically

there is no economic hope for black people or anybody else in socialism, socialism is a dead end, its been proven time and time again

I don't agree. Capitalism needs losers and we are playing the game with groups who want to keep us as losers in this system. When we begin to do well for ourselves they infiltrate, destabilize, subvert and generally sabotage our gains.

 

[theworldismine13]

I don't agree. Capitalism needs losers and we are playing the game with groups who want to keep us as losers in this system. When we begin to do well for ourselves they infiltrate, destabilize, subvert and generally sabotage our gains.

is there some system where "they" will not try to "infiltrate, destabilize, subvert and generally sabotage"

 

[CHL]

well if you want to have a discussion about just capitalism then you have to start by posting an article that IS NOT from a website called socialistworker.org, how about we start there

By that logic how the fukk can you and @DEAD7 post articles from cato, mises, reason etc especially if they're about socialism?

 

[theworldismine13]

By that logic how the fukk can you and @DEAD7 post articles from cato, mises, reason etc especially if they're about socialism?

i never said that i wanted to have a discussion about capitalism or socialism in a vacuum , rapbeats said that, i was responding to that