Reporter was lucky "Dr. D" David Schultz wasn't out there
Like telling C Murder that his name was phony.
Smug ass reporter at the first WrestleMania asks fans how they can like wrestling if it's fake, proceeds to get COOKED
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Like telling C Murder that his name was phony.
Eh, there's a difference though. (NOTE: I have no problem with people watching wrestling. I'm just explaining something.)I always laugh when people will sit around and talk about fictional books, TV shows and movies but get all uppity when you’re into wrestling
It’s a damn show like anything else.
TV shows and movies are completely fictionalized. The characters and/or locations don't exist in the real world. Also, many TV shows and movies will feature things like VFX or CGI or be fully animated. Live-action TV shows and movies are filmed on sets months or years in advance before they premiere.
The WWE exists in the real world, in real time, in real-life stadiums/arenas. The acting in the WWE (and other wrestling companies) is usually mediocre to terrible. The WWE also keeps or tries to keep up the kayfabe and pretend it is "real" or semi-real. Anyway, to me, I just don't see how someone beyond the age of 12/13 can still be engrossed in wrestling.
Obviously, like I said, people can enjoy wrestling if that's what they like but it's not the same thing as watching movies and other TV shows
Eh, there's a difference though. (NOTE: I have no problem with people watching wrestling. I'm just explaining something.)
TV shows and movies are completely fictionalized. The characters and/or locations don't exist in the real world. Also, many TV shows and movies will feature things like VFX or CGI or be fully animated. Live-action TV shows and movies are filmed on sets months or years in advance before they premiere.
The WWE exists in the real world, in real time, in real-life stadiums/arenas. The acting in the WWE (and other wrestling companies) is usually mediocre to terrible. The WWE also keeps or tries to keep up the kayfabe and pretend it is "real" or semi-real. Anyway, to me, I just don't see how someone beyond the age of 12/13 can still be engrossed in wrestling.
Obviously, like I said, people can enjoy wrestling if that's what they like but it's not the same thing as watching movies and other TV shows
Yeah, nah... this is like saying Anthony Mackie plays Captain America so he's expected to do Captain America shyt in real life. Or even outside of movies, there are still things such as theater where people generally understand they're going to see a show with actors portraying roles. Nobody except very small children thought for one minute that the Undertaker was a true and living zombie or supernatural being. And it's even more crazy and smug, like in this clip, where CHILDREN are telling a grown man that "it's a show" that they find entertaining and he's like "duh, whatever" like he doesn't understand that or doesn't expect them to understand that.
A lot of adults are just doofuses when it comes to wrestling and they think entirely too hard about it.
I remember the Donahue show where they were discussing the sex scandal shyt in '92... a serious topic involving people behind the scenes. It just had to be one idiot in the crowd- "yeah but isn't this stuff fixed?" WTFFFF does that have to do with anything being discussed
Then you got fans who for whatever reason are forever working themselves into a shoot with this stuff, even tho' they'd be expected to know slightly better than the people who say "you know it's fake, right?" I guess they give validity to questions like that, because it does seem sometimes that they're still having trouble with it
I've seen children accept their favorite wrestler losing a match better than some of these adults.
I remember the Donahue show where they were discussing the sex scandal shyt in '92... a serious topic involving people behind the scenes. It just had to be one idiot in the crowd- "yeah but isn't this stuff fixed?" WTFFFF does that have to do with anything being discussed
Then you got fans who for whatever reason are forever working themselves into a shoot with this stuff, even tho' they'd be expected to know slightly better than the people who say "you know it's fake, right?" I guess they give validity to questions like that, because it does seem sometimes that they're still having trouble with it
I've seen children accept their favorite wrestler losing a match better than some of these adults.
As a lapsed fan that gave up the ghost in retiring from watching wrestling, I look at the other side of the coin concerning the "it's fake" crowd.
You got to be a complete sociopath or suicidal to do what the wrestler do, and a crazy person to watch a predetermined show along with getting worked into a shoot about it (just like 83.3 percent of the TSC
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Yet those that watch it and follow it understand the assignment, reflect on the memories, and appreciate the storytelling involving the wrestling business.
It's a double sided coin that will never co exist, as heads either laugh at wrestling and the goofy fans, versus appreciating the ballet on percs.
You got to be a complete sociopath or suicidal to do what the wrestler do, and a crazy person to watch a predetermined show along with getting worked into a shoot about it (just like 83.3 percent of the TSC
)Yet those that watch it and follow it understand the assignment, reflect on the memories, and appreciate the storytelling involving the wrestling business.
It's a double sided coin that will never co exist, as heads either laugh at wrestling and the goofy fans, versus appreciating the ballet on percs.
That's not what I said, but OK.
I get what you said, but the fact remains that it is indeed a TV show. No, it's not a sitcom or a movie or a crime show, but it's fictitious. It would take a pretty moronic adult to think it's not. But in it being fiction, an adult who understands that can easily be entertained by it. Because at the end of the day, that's all it is. Expecting it to be anything more than that is
a job for that adult to work out in their own heads.
Yeah, but the WWE operates in basically an in-between (50% "real" and 50% fiction). Also, like I said, the WWE tries to keep up the kayfabe.I get what you said, but the fact remains that it is indeed a TV show. No, it's not a sitcom or a movie or a crime show, but it's fictitious. It would take a pretty moronic adult to think it's not. But in it being fiction, an adult who understands that can easily be entertained by it. Because at the end of the day, that's all it is. Expecting it to be anything more than that is
For me personally, I can really only watch something that is 100% fictional or 100% real (or close). The WWE is in a weird middle ground. I can't suspend my disbelief towards it. I don't see how an adult can be "entertained" by the WWE but whatever
Yeah, but the WWE operates in basically an in-between (50% "real" and 50% fiction). Also, like I said, the WWE tries to keep up the kayfabe.
For me personally, I can really only watch something that is 100% fictional or 100% real (or close). The WWE is in a weird middle ground. I can't suspend my disbelief towards it. I don't see how an adult can be "entertained" by the WWE but whatever
Maybe if this was 1988...
but WWE currently has a show on TV where the "deadman" (among others) is coaching wrestlers-in-training on their characters/promos/ring work... I don't see what part of that is them keeping up kayfabe. The Rock and HHH are literally doing press conferences after the shows talking about backstage shyt. Nobody but perhaps 7-year-olds and severely warped adults think this stuff is anything other than a show in 2025.
All of what you're saying is just further proving my point. If you don't understand my point, then cool, but it still stands.
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nikka, it's no difference from the circus, or magicians, or any other immersive performance art. You play along with the illusion.Yeah, but the WWE operates in basically an in-between (50% "real" and 50% fiction). Also, like I said, the WWE tries to keep up the kayfabe.
For me personally, I can really only watch something that is 100% fictional or 100% real (or close). The WWE is in a weird middle ground. I can't suspend my disbelief towards it. I don't see how an adult can be "entertained" by the WWE but whatever
If you've been the the Universoul Circus, you've seen a nikka try to fight a Kangaroo. You know damn well it's not a real fight and the Kangaroo is trained to do specific things...but a man fighting a Kangaroo is hilarious and fun so you watch it like a real fight (and half these nikkas think they really could take a Kangaroo
)Like I said, wrestling is a show about a sport that's always "on." It's origins in the carnival sphere have never completely left and it's just part of the whole thing. Wrestlers are always working to an extent because the performance is their livelihood and they're trying to draw fans.
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You're setting some arbitrary standard to basically talk down on people for liking wrestling. You're caring about shyt that fans don't actually care about - again, projecting your mistaken idea that wrestling is trying to pass itself off as a real sports league onto us.
When people at Avengers End Game are clapping and cheering the portal stuff, do you think that they think that's *actually* happening? No, but they're invested and care about it, and when those moments come that tap into your emotions, reality and fiction doesn't matter. Same thing with wrestling.
And I don't go to or really watch circuses lol. Those types of events also aren't usually broadcast on TV weekly.nikka, it's no difference from the circus, or magicians, or any other immersive performance art. You play along with the illusion.
If you've been the the Universoul Circus, you've seen a nikka try to fight a Kangaroo. You know damn well it's not a real fight and the Kangaroo is trained to do specific things...but a man fighting a Kangaroo is hilarious and fun so you watch it like a real fight (and half these nikkas think they could really take a Kangaroo
Like I said, wrestling is a show about a sport that's always "on." It's origins in the carnival sphere have never completely left and it's just part of the whole thing.
Nope. I've already said that people liking wrestling is fine. I just don't understand it (along with most non-wrestling fans).
Also, I'm not "projecting" anything. The WWE does want to try to make it seem as if their storylines are "real", and they usually have wrestlers stay in character at WWE events.
I used to be a huge WWE fan growing up, but by the time I became a teen, it just didn't make sense to continue watching it.
You're not saying it's fine, you're basically saying "if you're into that kinda shyt, cool I guess"
It's coming off just like the reporter. They have people stay in character at WWE events? Ya don't say!
But when Roman Reigns is on a talk show laughing and cracking jokes, he is not being Roman Reigns. When Undertaker is on a show teaching people how to play a character, that's not keeping kayfabe - would the Undertaker character do that? It is no different than MCU films - nobody's going to those movies and paying to see Chris Hemsworth be Chris.
It's like your point is to say "if you like it, I love it" but also being adamant that you don't get how anyone who isn't a child could find it entertaining. Double talk, basically.
It's the WWE that's doing the "double talk". Either be 100% real, unscripted wrestling or be a 100% fictional sports drama show.You're not saying it's fine, you're basically saying "if you're into that kinda shyt, cool I guess"
They have people stay in character at WWE events? Ya don't say!
But when Roman Reigns is on a talk show laughing and cracking jokes, he is not being Roman Reigns. When Undertaker is on a show teaching people how to play a character, that's not keeping kayfabe - would the Undertaker character do that? It is no different than MCU films - nobody's going to those movies and paying to see Chris Hemsworth be Chris.
It's like your point is to say "if you like it, I love it" but also being adamant that you don't get how anyone who isn't a child could find it entertaining. Double talk, basically.
The WWE does the 50/50 nonsense, and it's weird. I can't stop other people from watching or liking it though
Also, you keep bringing up the MCU. Would you watch an MCU movie if it was just unedited footage without any special effects, VFX, or CGI? Most likely no. Well, that's basically what the WWE is lol (except you can't watch an MCU movie being filmed in real-time).