So apparently this is "Kanye West's dream team"

[The Devil's Advocate]

how do you pay all those people?

with negative 53 million dollars

 

[spliz]

Mixing and inspiration are important aspects of creating an album. Whatever gets the job done.

Ewf had a lot of wack songs. Kanye West does not

Son Kanye's last 2 albums are weedplates.

 

[Insensitive]

dj quik sucks now though. doing shyt by yourself isnt impressive if you produce shyt

This sucks ?








I'd hate to have your musical taste.

Be one of the greatest musicians Hip-Hop has ever seen only to
get looked over for one who plays at being a genius brehs.

 

[Wildin]

Son Kanye's last 2 albums are weedplates.

still has 5 albums that aren't weed plates 5/7. that is damn good especially considering he is hands on on all of them.

 

[Mowgli]

Son Kanye's last 2 albums are weedplates.

I disagree

 

[spliz]

I disagree

Cool.

 

[Mowgli]

EWF is easily Kanye's equal, hell, I'd go as far to say that they
shouldn't even be compared
Maurice White, Verdine White >>>. Kanye West

I mean this song alone is seeing just about anything
Kanye West and his army of producers and writers
have come up with.

Ok. They are more talented as technical musicians but their ear is hit and miss.

Kanye West ear is very hit and average.

Rarely trash.

Kanye average is trash because uve been conditioned by high quality.

 

[Pifferry]

Kanye's been writing poetry since he was like si and making beats since he was in middle school, don't know why thecoli wants to discredit his skill so much.

Kanye don't even got nothing in his entire discography remotely fukkin wit this.


Mike wrote AND composed this whole track. Did the arrangements as well. nikka was a trained songwriter. And nikkas wanna compare Kanye to this nikka? fukk outta here.

Kanye makes music as good as MJ

 

[spliz]

Kanye's been writing poetry since he was like si and making beats since he was in middle school, don't know why thecoli wants to discredit his skill so much.

Kanye makes music as good as MJ

Ur delusional. Lol

 

[Pifferry]

Ur delusional. Lol

Can't Tell Me Nothing
Paranoid
Gone
Heard Em Say
Street Lights
Coldest Winter
Blood On The Leaves
Runaway
Late
Ultra Light Beams

 

[RTF]

Fair enough. Somewhere in this thread I pointed out that Evidence produced Last Call and John Legend did the keys on joints like Get Em High.

Rhymefest penned on Jesus Walks. But in general I like that it wasn't 100% polished. He was trying to prove a lot on that album, and the fact that you can hear punch ins and that there are too many skits and that there are some weak spots where it's not able to hold all the weight of its own ambitions was always charming. I thought in a weird way it was something to appreciate about the album.

I agree it's charming. But it wouldn't be charming on album number 2 let alone 7. He's shown growth.

 

[RTF]

Go watch the Spike Lee joint he did on Michael. Then feel like a complete jackass for even thinking of conparing the two.

On Bad - seen that. Seen making Thriller documentaries. Heard Demo's MJ did in his room of classic records.

Fact remains MJ needed his team right to get the product to exactly where he wanted it. What is your point?

Quincy was the main producer (listed on the notes). A good number of the songs Michael came up with the skeleton and Quincy used other musicians to fleshen it out. Is Quincy not a Genius? He didn't create the melodies for most of the songs, didn't play any instruments on most of the records.

Does that mean MJ and Quincy aren't both geniuses?

The similar thing they did to Ye is getting whoever they thought was the best person in to do the job.

 

[RTF]

Dizzee Rascal produced his entire first album at 16 and it's one of the greatest albums to ever come out the UK. He won the mercury music award for it at 17 and when on to open up shows for Hov with the Clipse performing it.

Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Sittin' Here" Dylan Mills 4:05
2. "Stop Dat" Mills 3:40
3. "I Luv U" Mills 4:05
4. "Brand New Day" Mills 4:00
5. "2 Far" (featuring Wiley) Richard Cowie, Mills 3:07
6. "Fix Up, Look Sharp" Nick Detnon, Mills, Billy Squier 3:44
7. "Cut 'Em Off" Mills 3:53
8. "Hold Ya Mouf" (featuring God’s Gift) Jerome Dow, Mills 2:55
9. "Round We Go" (co-produced by Chubby Dread) Hector, Mills 4:13
10. "Jus' a Rascal" (featuring Taz) (co-produced by Taz & Vanguard) Mills, Tesmond Rowe, Vanguard Vardoen 3:39
11. "Wot U On?" (featuring Caramel) Mills 4:50
12. "Jezebel" Mills 3:36
13. "Seems 2 Be" Mills 3:46
14. "Live O" Mills 3:35
15. "Do It!" Mills 4:06

Apart from the features he wrote every verse and hook (excluding samples) too. Obviously we don't expect everyone to work like this but don't act like you need 50 people in a room to make great music

Breh one of these songs, the production is simply the Big Beat with a vocal sample. You want to compare that to what Kanye is doing?

Boy in da Corner is one of my favourite albums of all time. Perfect depiction of earlyish Grime. Minimalist, electronic beats. The whole thing sounds like it was made by one man in a bedroom using one of those PlayStation2 beatmaker games (you know what I mean). You can't compare the scale or ambition in sound to a Kanye album. Notice the one track with standout live instrumentation "Jus a Rascal" has multiple producers.

For comparison this is an album in the vein of Common's Be. Minimal live instrumentation, nearly all beats made by a single producer at a time on his instrument of choice.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I agree it's charming. But it wouldn't be charming on album number 2 let alone 7. He's shown growth.

I agree and I hope I never said anything otherwise.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

still has 5 albums that aren't weed plates 5/7. that is damn good especially considering he is hands on on all of them.

As much as Kanye doesn't appeal to me at all, I don't see how you can't say this. And if 808s wasn't your thing (it's not really mine) then I think you have to respect Dropout, Registration, Graduation, and Fantasy. That's a 4 disc catalog right there better than most people will ever come close to. Kanye is almost no debate the artists of the 00's decade.