So are we ready to admit that Reigns is a better worker than Cena right now?

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You can dislike him, but constantly booing at him like a child is petty as f_ck. I mean boo for what? Guy hasn't been stagnant, improved, and he's still fairly young. He doesn't wrestle better than Seth, Roman's just less of a botch machine than Seth. Now he's IS better than Dean in the ring.
I'll take the guy that has hard-hitting matches and values selling over the guy that takes the absolute worst of indy wrestling and applies it in his matches.. I mean really, a superplex into a falcon arrow in the midst of a grueling match? You guys call that great wrestling?

Give me Roman Reigns and Rusev over Kevin Owens and Seth Rollins any day of the week. This isn't even an anti-smark take since AJ and Bryan are two of my favorite wrestlers of all time.
 

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I'll take the guy that has hard-hitting matches and values selling over the guy that takes the absolute worst of indy wrestling and applies it in his matches.. I mean really, a superplex into a falcon arrow in the midst of a grueling match? You guys call that great wrestling?

Give me Roman Reigns and Rusev over Kevin Owens and Seth Rollins any day of the week. This isn't even an anti-smark take since AJ and Bryan are two of my favorite wrestlers of all time.


Seth and Owens are actually in that weird zone of indy guys.
Where they were generally hated in the indy's.
Except the iwc forgot they hated them.
when they felt vindicated at their WWE signing.
Yet both black/rollins, and Owens always produced some apathy for some reason.
Imo, I always thought they were great and their time would come eventually.
So, it is just refreshing to see.
In the WWE, the iwc is going to have to remember their workrate is gonna be severely neutered in the WWE.
Just like the cruisers are on raw and that it will take a while.
for them to figure out how to condense their workrate to being WWE smashmouth main event compatible.
We just watched a neutered debut cruiser raw match with a horrific WWE lack of workrate style ending.
So I just don't understand how people in the iwc do not know this and don't expect it.
Plus in regards to reigns, he is always going to have a disconnect to the iwc.
as he is a wwe product and is basically green inring with the indy heroes.
Yet he has shown being an excellent hand at executing the WWE main event smashmouth style.
So, i think the mis-informed or fronting contingent of marks posing as smart in iwc.
Just expose themselves by being overly harsh to reigns.
As you are smart and should know the workrate is going to be neutered and will have to realize.
you won't get the same quality of match from the Indy heroes and you won't get or see the WWE created and trained workers ever be able to really meld inring with the Indy heroes.

Aj styles, punk and Bryan are the only guys from the Indy heroes who readily took to amalgamating and figuring out how to incorporate the WWE workrate of the smash mouth main event style.
Plus condensing their moveset and workrate to be compatible with the WWE style and neutered workrate.

For guys like reigns, he has been good at converting over and may not be as natural at it as the USos.
Yet he shows incredible promise as a strictly WWE style worker.
Maybe later in his career, after absorbing the experience he will be able to incorporate more elaborate workrate and match sequences.
Yet for what reigns is in the context of the WWE he is actually way ahead of the curve, imo.

As reigns is an active work in progress.
So trying to be demonstrative to him and his place on the card from the iwc.
I really don't get as it is obvious reigns fits into the type of look McMahon will and has coveted.
So, why people overly complain about reigns to the extent they do and call themselves smart is telling.

Art Barr
 
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Reigns with another great TV main event.
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Every year he's been getting better.

Was nothing to watch. I turned off last two main events involving Reigns,

His PPV matches are usually good. He's good in a Fatal Fourway or Triple Threat on Raw too.
 
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