So Bolt's teammates roided, his trainer worked at Balco

[mastermind]

the symptoms that you can get from using hgh vary based on the amount you take and the length of your cycles. they arent the same across the board for every user.

HGH & acromegaly



acromegaly is the enlargement of bones and organomegaly is the enlargement of organs in the body

* HGH (Human Growth Hormone) Effects



some other symptoms of hgh use include things like acne on the face and body, teeth spreading, and hair loss. it also increases muscle while getting rid of fat creating an almost unrealistic comic book like physique. these kinds of things obviously arent caused exclusively by hgh (you might have always looked like a caveman, had spread out teeth, acne, and a comic book body) but when you see these effects in an athlete, especially several of them in conjunction with each other, its an immediate warning sign.

rg3 for example has the protruding jaw and brow, extremely low body fat per body muscle ratio, acne, and the characteristic thick abdominal wall caused by organomegaly, what some other posters have pointed out as "roid gut"

the difference of a normal abdominal wall and a thick abdominal wall caused by organomegaly is someone like floyd mayweather vs roy jones (floyd has very ripped abs but they dont protrude out and look thick meanwhile roy's abs are ripped the same way but in addition have an extra characteristic look of thickness and protrusion) and allyson felix vs carmalita jeter (same example)

heres a picture of usain bolt's abs which is rare since he usually wears a shirt that hides his body instead of a track suit. make of it what you will.

heres a photoshop comparing two body builders. on the left is ronnie coleman who takes hgh and sharzaneggar who was taking some earlier form of steroid before the hgh era

 

[calh45]

The whole premise of this thread is why I don't fukk with ESPN anymore. Colin Cowherd will say anything to get people paying attention to the dog shyt that spews outta his mouth.

 

[Malta]

the symptoms that you can get from using hgh vary based on the amount you take and the length of your cycles. they arent the same across the board for every user.

HGH & acromegaly



acromegaly is the enlargement of bones and organomegaly is the enlargement of organs in the body

* HGH (Human Growth Hormone) Effects



some other symptoms of hgh use include things like acne on the face and body, teeth spreading, and hair loss. it also increases muscle while getting rid of fat creating an almost unrealistic comic book like physique. these kinds of things obviously arent caused exclusively by hgh (you might have always looked like a caveman, had spread out teeth, acne, and a comic book body) but when you see these effects in an athlete, especially several of them in conjunction with each other, its an immediate warning sign.

rg3 for example has the protruding jaw and brow, extremely low body fat per body muscle ratio, acne, and the characteristic thick abdominal wall caused by organomegaly, what some other posters have pointed out as "roid gut"

the difference of a normal abdominal wall and a thick abdominal wall caused by organomegaly is someone like floyd mayweather vs roy jones (floyd has very ripped abs but they dont protrude out and look thick meanwhile roy's abs are ripped the same way but in addition have an extra characteristic look of thickness and protrusion) and allyson felix vs carmalita jeter (same example)

heres a picture of usain bolt's abs which is rare since he usually wears a shirt that hides his body instead of a track suit. make of it what you will.

heres a photoshop comparing two body builders. on the left is ronnie coleman who takes hgh and sharzaneggar who was taking some earlier form of steroid before the hgh era

CJ the Workout Kid must be on HGH, since his abs protrude -

He's 10.

 

[Hollywood Co]

I know this dude ain't trying to say that protruding abs equal HGH?

 

[Kings County]

heres a photoshop comparing two body builders. on the left is ronnie coleman who takes hgh and sharzaneggar who was taking some earlier form of steroid before the hgh era

so u dont know the difference between steroids to be a body builder and steroids to help u build endurance

 

[Jesus]

I know this dude ain't trying to say that protruding abs equal HGH?

 

[Yayo Toure]

this thread is full of guys who got their medical degree from Everest college trying to diagnose what a person on steroids looks like.

 

[Absolut]

why is there not only one, but several mentions of rgIII in a thread about bolt?

 

[bigmanharris]

CJ the Workout Kid must be on HGH, since his abs protrude -

He's 10.

Man he lives in one of my hometowns ( I had dual residency) and I see his pops ride thru my folks hood in this SUV advertising his son's dvd like every time I kick it with my cousins....just saw him the past 2 days. I wonder if his pops on dope or he just like riding thru the hood.....

 

[rantanamo]

Anyone that believe any of these top sprinters are clean is just being naive. The difference with Jamaica right now, from the mouth of the IOC itself is they are not being tested on the regular by their own testing body, cuz they aint got no testing body man(we need a Tommy Strong smilie for this situation). So they only get tested for competitions. That's simply not when most are using PEDs. PED cycles are used during training to heal. Heal injuries, heal torn muscle tissue after workouts which is what makes you stronger and to heal connective tissue, making it stronger as well. Its been said by the IOC, its been said by others countries, its been said by Balco that they are basically not testing anywhere near as much as others have to.

 

[courtdog]

Anyone that believe any of these top sprinters are clean is just being naive. The difference with Jamaica right now, from the mouth of the IOC itself is they are not being tested on the regular by their own testing body, cuz they aint got no testing body man(we need a Tommy Strong smilie for this situation). So they only get tested for competitions. That's simply not when most are using PEDs. PED cycles are used during training to heal. Heal injuries, heal torn muscle tissue after workouts which is what makes you stronger and to heal connective tissue, making it stronger as well. Its been said by the IOC, its been said by others countries, its been said by Balco that they are basically not testing anywhere near as much as others have to.

I can agree with this. But then again, we in America. So the best Roids will probably be available here before it would in Jamaica

Russia on the otherhand? Place like that? I don't know...

 

[posterchild336]

I know this dude ain't trying to say that protruding abs equal HGH?

dudes just follow the hype and get brainwashed, all of a sudden they have a phd in sports medicine..

 

[posterchild336]

Anyone that believe any of these top sprinters are clean is just being naive. The difference with Jamaica right now, from the mouth of the IOC itself is they are not being tested on the regular by their own testing body, cuz they aint got no testing body man(we need a Tommy Strong smilie for this situation). So they only get tested for competitions. That's simply not when most are using PEDs. PED cycles are used during training to heal. Heal injuries, heal torn muscle tissue after workouts which is what makes you stronger and to heal connective tissue, making it stronger as well. Its been said by the IOC, its been said by others countries, its been said by Balco that they are basically not testing anywhere near as much as others have to.

are you saying only usa is getting enforced...jamaica is getting tested so hard especially since last olympics, they actually said they are focusing more on jamaica now since dominance.

 

[mastermind]

Anyone that believe any of these top sprinters are clean is just being naive. The difference with Jamaica right now, from the mouth of the IOC itself is they are not being tested on the regular by their own testing body, cuz they aint got no testing body man(we need a Tommy Strong smilie for this situation). So they only get tested for competitions. That's simply not when most are using PEDs. PED cycles are used during training to heal. Heal injuries, heal torn muscle tissue after workouts which is what makes you stronger and to heal connective tissue, making it stronger as well. Its been said by the IOC, its been said by others countries, its been said by Balco that they are basically not testing anywhere near as much as others have to.

Jamaica does have an anti-doping agency that is in line with WADA. Why do you think Shelly Ann Fraser got busted for those pain meds she was using? That IOC dude was speaking out of ignorance.

 

[Yuzo Lightheart]

I can agree with this. But then again, we in America. So the best Roids will probably be available here before it would in Jamaica

Russia on the otherhand? Place like that? I don't know...

most of the performance enhancing drugs in the world get produced in out of pocket type countries with deregulated government oversight for these kinds of things. most of the hgh in the world gets produced in china for example. all that it takes a knowledgeable chem student experimenting with these compounds and releasing them into the international black market looking to make a profit for himself. its pretty simple really.

heres a link to former junior worlds long distance running champion mathew kisorio talking about how normal drugs are in kenya:

"Kisorio gave a long and detailed description of his blood-doping and steroid regime, blaming medical staff behind the system and claiming many fellow Kenyans were using illegal performance-enhancing procedures.

"I didn't run up to my standard during this year's Boston marathon," he told German TV channel ARD.

"To get my power of endurance up, he (a doctor) told me they will take care of it. I asked if this is considered doping. He said: 'No problem. The substance stays only three to four days in your blood circulation and then it is impossible to prove.'

"I went with it, because everyone told me, I wasn't the only one - and none of the others got caught for doping.

"I know that a lot of medical substances are used, which are injected straight to the blood for the body to have more oxygen. And when you run, you run so smooth. You have more stamina.

"When the prize money comes in the doctors want a piece of your success," Kisorio added.

"There are some doctors who settle down in popular athlete areas where you can find the training camps. These men just open a pharmacy and claim they are just selling legal medication. Then they approach the athletes. It is the same all over the country.

"Athletics Kenya knows now what the situation is like. Maybe this is an ongoing problem that finally surfaces."

http://www.reuters.com/london-olympics-2012/articles/athletics/2012/08/10/

after reading some of the posts in here i dont think you guys really understand the reason why performance enhancing drugs are bad for sports. it seems you just look at the strength and the speed and are happy and dont factor in anything else. these drugs completely delegitimize the whole point of sport because they create an environment where whoever has access to the newest and best drugs simply wins, and whoever doesnt, simply loses.

therefore its reaches a level where it isnt how hard you work or how determined you are anymore: it becomes about who has the best connect and who has the best drug at the moment. and that isnt sport anymore. the athletes arguably start to become not even human anymore, but just muscle machines, that work only as good as whatever new and best drugs some hot shot chemist in the international black market scene can come up with this year.

you have to take a bigger look at what we are doing to sports by allowing things like this or just blowing it off like its not a big deal.