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JameisNewton said:
It's kind of pathetic, honestly. The guy has a great 4 game stretch a decade ago and it's supposed to excuse all of his annual duds every year since.
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He's had multiple great 4 game stretches though.....

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Including the year prior......

And including the year LBJ came down to Miami, in which he matched LBJ statistically.....
 
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He had 3 1st round exits prior to LBJ getting there, but he already had a title and 2 conference Finals appearances a Finals MVP and 3 1st round advancements prior to LBJ. Even if you acknowledge Wades failure prior to LBJ, at WORST Wade has a championship, finals MVP, Finals appearance, 2 conference Finals appearances, NBA scoring champion, a whole GANG of all-NBA selections, a whole GANG of all-star appearances, and that's all in a 7yr window of his career prior to LBJ getting there. He did before LBJ, period. He did it, he's done it, it's DONE. 2006 was a long time ago, but so was 2007, 2008, and 2009.

Why put whiteout on part of that 7yr window? As a Wade fan, I acknowledge Wades 1st round exits, his failures, his failure to get Miami to the playoffs last year, but I'm not gonna put Whiteout over his back-to-back conference Finals appearances. I'm gonna look at his pre-LBJ career in it's entirety.

Let's just put it this way. LBJ has done more in the post-season with less help, and Wade has done more in the post-season with the same amount of help. HE WON A TITLE with the 2nd highest scoring teammate averaging 13ppg. And he got Miami to a conference final in the 2005 playoffs without Shaq(Shaq getting injured in the previous series).

LBJ Post-season>Wade Post-season overall. LBJ's gotten to the Finals twice without Wade. And was the catalyst for getting Miami to the Finals in those 5yrs. But this hypothetical game can go soooo deep. After all, both players are currently in the playoffs, and both players have had post-season success without each other.
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What are you talking about? Who is putting whiteout on anything? Who is being hypothetical? If you are consistent with yours then :salute:. As long as you are equally thorough both ways and ascribing credit/blame with comparable intensity I got nothing to say breh. All I know is that I hear a whole lot more about that serendipitous title run from a decade ago than I do about any of those first round exits, lottery squads, or less than sterling performances with Bron on the squad that have all happened since. I hear a whole lotta talk about championship mettle and teaching folks how to win, conversely I have watched inconsistent effort/impact on both ends and a refusal to alter his own game.

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Why is Wades 2006 Finals run viewed as serendipitous? He was one game away from reaching the Finals one year prior, and moved up a round every year for his 1st 3 seasons.....
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Because he (your words, I look forward to "bu..bu..but the team" despite the fact that you started with the "he") got swept in the first round the next year :dead:. I love how your timeline just came to screeching halt at that point :heh:.
 
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What are you talking about? Who is putting whiteout on anything? Who is being hypothetical? If you are consistent with yours then :salute:. As long as you are equally thorough both ways and ascribing credit/blame with comparable intensity I got nothing to say breh. All I know is that I hear a whole lot more about that serendipitous title run from a decade ago than I do about any of those first round exits, lottery squads, or less than sterling performances with Bron on the squad that have all happened since. I hear a whole lotta talk about championship mettle and teaching folks how to win, conversely I have watched inconsistent effort/impact on both ends and a refusal to alter his own game.



Because he (your words, I look forward to "bu..bu..but the team" despite the fact that you started with the "he") got swept in the first round the next year :dead:. I love how your timeline just came to screeching halt at that point :heh:.
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B-B-But what? I've already acknowledged all of Wade's 1st round exits after that title.
 
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LBJ James

Year1: Missed Playoffs
Year2: Missed Playoffs
Year3: 2nd round
Year4: NBA Finlas
Year5: 2nd round
Year6: Conference Finals
Year7: 2nd round

Dwyane Wade

Year1: 2nd Round
Year2: Conference Finals
Year3: NBA Title
Year4: 1st Round exit
Year5: Worst record in the NBA(Missed Playoffs)
Year6: 1st Round Exit
Year7: 1st Round Exit

NOW!!! Copping please for NEITHER ONE, who had the better 1st 7yrs without needing the other, as far as post-season success? I fully acknowledged Dwade's Heat had a 15 win record one year. 15wins......but looking at their 1st 7 seasons, which player had the better post-season and did more. Again, without copping please for either one. Don't accuse me of "B-B-But Wade didn't have" NOPE, I'm analyzing both in their ENTIRETY.

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FTBS said:
What are you talking about? Who is putting whiteout on anything? Who is being hypothetical? If you are consistent with yours then :salute:. As long as you are equally thorough both ways and ascribing credit/blame with comparable intensity I got nothing to say breh. All I know is that I hear a whole lot more about that serendipitous title run from a decade ago than I do about any of those first round exits, lottery squads, or less than sterling performances with Bron on the squad that have all happened since. I hear a whole lotta talk about championship mettle and teaching folks how to win, conversely I have watched inconsistent effort/impact on both ends and a refusal to alter his own game.



Because he (your words, I look forward to "bu..bu..but the team" despite the fact that you started with the "he") got swept in the first round the next year :dead:. I love how your timeline just came to screeching halt at that point :heh:.
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You know, some players get unfairly criticized, others get unfairly praised. Lebron, CP3, Tmac get unfairly criticized because only their failure are noted.

I am a fan of Wade, but you are correct that he is in the same category as Kobe and Dirk where only his successes are emphasized.
 
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You know, some players get unfairly criticized, others get unfairly praised. Lebron, CP3, Tmac get unfairly criticized because only their failure are noted.

I am a fan of Wade, but you are correct that he is in the same category as Kobe and Dirk where only his successes are emphasized.
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Respect for the realness. I don't know why it's so hard for people just keep it 100 about people they like.

Dirk was known as a soft choker until 2011. People started to come down on Kobe once that post-Shaq success didn't come as quickly and Shaq got that quick chip. D. Wade is that rare guy that gets to be a superstar when shyt goes well and then gets to be overlooked when shyt goes left.
 
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Respect for the realness. I don't know why it's so hard for people just keep it 100 about people they like.

Dirk was known as a soft choker until 2011. People started to come down on Kobe once that post-Shaq success didn't come as quickly and Shaq got that quick chip. D. Wade is that rare guy that gets to be a superstar when shyt goes well and then gets to be overlooked when shyt goes left.
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Well my friend, I'm not overlooking anything. I compared their post-season careers and achievements and failures independent of one another in their 1st 7yrs a couple of post above this one. Who had the better post-season run independent of the other?
 
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