He's fuming something so serious he apparently lost all his reading and comprehension skills.
We're talking about post 2006 without LeBron and he's writing essays about 2004 and 2005.
So D Wade dropped 12 points again in a crucial playoff game?
We're talking about post 2006 without LeBron and he's writing essays about 2004 and 2005.
Biscayne
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And how many titles does LBJ have without Wade? As dumb as that question sounds, if we're gonna play the "Well, without LBJ, Wade would've been one and done his whole career" game, than why not play the "Well, without Wade, LBJ has no rings" game. Thread is dumb......so you'll get dumb responses.Did you even read what I said?
Is it not true?
What was the last series Wade won without Bron?
2006 Finals.
What year is it right now?
How long ago was that?
You arguing points nobody even brought up or disputed...
Good job, good effort.
Biscayne
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AGREED!!! Anytime they needed Wade to score X amount of points, Wade would step up and score X amount of points, than he would slideback to the Sidekick role, whenever LBJ needed to be the primary scorer/ballhandler. Wade regressed in 2012 statistically only because the offense was centered around LBJ. And Wade STILL ended up averaging 22ppg to LBJ's 28. When Wade regressed, he regressed just enough to not get in LBJ's way. Oh yeah, and Wade actually scored 30pts in that 2013 NBA Finals game against SA. I know every game they're talking about, and every stat.
Biscayne
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So we're gonna narrow Wades post-season career to a small 3 season window AFTER he won a title and BEFORE LBJ came, and we're gonna use that small window as a hypothetical to prove that without LBJ, Wade wouldn't have much success in the playoffs?He's fuming something so serious he apparently lost all his reading and comprehension skills.
We're talking about post 2006 without LeBron and he's writing essays about 2004 and 2005.
The problem with this argument is, Wades success in the previous 3 seasons negates this argument already. Wade was surrounded by HORRIBLE teams from 2007-2010. Wades 1st 3 seasons was proof of what he could do if he was surrounded by talent.
Also, 2010-2011 Wade and LBJ were about statistically even in that post-season, with Wade actually averaging 1 more point than LeBron.
This is all so silly.
Biscayne
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My friend, look at Wades efficiency and True Shooting Percentage vs Dirks.2011 Finals
Mavs top 3
Dirk: 26-9-2
Terry: 18-2-3
Marion: 13-6-2
Heat top 3
Wade: 26-7-5
Bosh: 18-7-1
LeBron: 17-7-6
How exactly is Wade outperforming Dirk here? How is Wade "deserving" Finals MVP? Look at his best teammates. Look at Dirk's best teammates. Plus, entire Heat defense was trying to stop Dirk and he put up those numbers. Wade had the luxury of Carlisle and Co. scheming for LeBron and getting the ball out of his hands and letting Bosh and Wade eat on 1-on-1 defense.
Yet Wade stans will sit here and say he needed more help in 2011
:flabbynwade:
Wade: 26ppg on 55% from the field(61% True Shooting percentage)
Dirk: 26ppg on 41% from the field(53% True Shooting percentage)
K.
We all know he was nice his first 3 years and had success. Nobody's discussing that. The point was that he hasn't done anything since then without having the best player in the world next to him.
Last year he had Deng, Granger, Whiteside, 1/2 Bosh, 1/2 Dragic and couldn't even make the playoffs... In the East... The goddamn Brooklyn Nets made the playoffs, but Wade and Co could't... What does that say about Wade? Let me guess, you got like 15 more excuses...
WowMy friend, look at Wades efficiency and True Shooting Percentage vs Dirks.
Wade: 26ppg on 55% from the field(61% True Shooting percentage)
Dirk: 26ppg on 41% from the field(53% True Shooting percentage)
It's almost as if... Dirk was the focal point of Miami's gameplan and was the lone superstar on his team
It's almost as if... LeBron was the focal point of Dallas' gameplan and Wade got to feast on open looks or 1-on-1 defense without any help
It's almost as if... playing alongside the best player in the world and Chris Bosh is better for efficiency than having your best teammate be a 33 year old 6th man Jason Terry
I wonder what Dirk's TS% would be if he had LeBron and Bosh for teammates
Jesus Is Lord
Give Thanks, Repent, and Forgive
Wade's won 7 playoff series without LBJ
Rookie season 2003-2004: Dwyane Wade leads Miami past the New Orleans Hornets to get Miami to the Eastern Conference Semifinals where they eventually lose to the Pacers in 6 games.
Sophmore Season 2004-2005: Dwyane Wade leads Miami to the Eastern Conference Finals where they lose to Detroit in 7 games. Wade had a rib injury that sidelined him for Game6.
3rd Season in the League 2005-2006: Dwyane Wade leads Miami to the NBA Finals, where you know what happens.
So this narrative that Wade has only won one series prior to LBJ, is inaccurate and needs to die. Prior to LBJ, he's had a semifinals appearance, to conference finals appearances, and an NBA Title and a Finals MVP to his name.
Carry On....
"Had a spark when he first started, now he just ..."
Biscayne
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Granger isn't even in the league anymore.
We didn't start playing Whiteside until February.
You mentioned Bosh.
You mentioned Dragic.
Wade played pretty good last year, but overall, I will concede that missing the playoffs counts as an F on his career resume. So there you go. That's one point I'll concede. He could've done more, He should've played better.....
Biscayne
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I can give you Wade's playoff statistics when he was the lone superstar being defended by the 2010 Boston Celtics team, that's regarded as one of the best defensive teams in the last 10yrs, and a team that had Tony Allen in his prime, one of the best one-on-one defenders this league has ever seen. The same Celtics team that eliminated Cleveland that year, and took LA to 7 games in the Finals and forced a prime Kobe into having a bad Game 7. Let's commence.Wow
It's almost as if... Dirk was the focal point of Miami's gameplan and was the lone superstar on his team
It's almost as if... LeBron was the focal point of Dallas' gameplan and Wade got to feast on open looks or 1-on-1 defense without any help
It's almost as if... playing alongside the best player in the world and Chris Bosh is better for efficiency than having your best teammate be a 33 year old 6th man Jason Terry
I wonder what Dirk's TS% would be if he had LeBron and Bosh for teammates
2009-2010 Dywane Wade against Boston in the eastern conference 1st round as the lone All-Star on his team. GREAT Boston defense completely focused on Wade:
33ppg/7ast/5rebs onnnnnnn 56% shooting from the field.
Again..all dude is saying which YOU again articulately pointed out..this ALL happen 10 years ago..nothing more nothing less..not shyttin on Wade at all...if he gets past Charlotte there will be something out there like.. this "is Wade's first playoff series win without LeBron since 2006"..and most people would be like
...I didn't know that"...that's all my G....
Biscayne
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They love to use Whiteout on people's careers. Omit certain things, use weird qualifiers, use weird windows in certain players primes to either make those players seem lesser or greater than they were.....Don't get why y'all do this with guys in their 30s with that mileage and wear and tear and 13 years in.
He gon have some games where he's great like in game 2 and he'll have some games like this.
Y'all do it with the Spurs dudes too and its weird.
Y'all get weirdly picky and choosy.
Especially if this dude is a Bron stan
Cool. You're ignoring the fact that Boston's strategy was to let Dwyane Wade cook and shut down the other 4 guys on the court. Effectively forcing Dwyane Wade to outscore the entire Boston team by himself. Nobody else on the Heat even broke an 11ppg average that series. The Celtics defensive gameplan was to keep everybody BUT Wade from scoring. They knew Wade couldn't win by himself and they put him in that position. It worked. It's actually a strategy a TON of teams employ in the situation where you're facing a lone superstar on a team.I can give you Wade's playoff statistics when he was the lone superstar being defended by the 2010 Boston Celtics team, that's regarded as one of the best defensive teams in the last 10yrs, and a team that had Tony Allen in his prime, one of the best one-on-one defenders this league has ever seen. The same Celtics team that eliminated Cleveland that year, and took LA to 7 games in the Finals and forced a prime Kobe into having a bad Game 7. Let's commence.
2009-2010 Dywane Wade against Boston in the eastern conference 1st round as the lone All-Star on his team. GREAT Boston defense completely focused on Wade:
33ppg/7ast/5rebs onnnnnnn 56% shooting from the field.
In 2009 in the Conference Semis, Dirk averaged 34.4, 11.6, 4.0 on 53.4% shooting. It was against the Nuggets. The Mavs lost that series 4-1.
And guess what, nobody cares. Because they lost.
You've resorted to pointing out some empty ass stats in losses. Stats the other team almost conceded because they knew it was a surefire way to win the series. Any other superstar puts up crazy numbers in a loss (Tracy McGrady and pre-ring Dirk and KG come to mind immediately), nobody cares because they lost. If Wade does it, it's a source of pride for Wade fans...
Thanks for proving my point. "He lost bu-bu-but look at these numbers!!!"
I wonder if you cape this hard for TMac when he was putting up monster numbers in Orlando and losing. Or Dirk in Dallas. Or KG in Minny. Or Kobe in LA 05-07. Or Nash in Phoenix. Or Carmelo in Denver. I mean, they also all put up ridiculous box scores and averages on underperforming teams, yes? Does that also make you go
?Biscayne
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Hey, I'm just going by your previous argument that LBJ being the focal point, made it easier for Wade to get his. Wade can get his, and do it at an efficient rate, whether the defense is completely focused on him, or whether there are better players surrounding him and freeing him up.Cool. You're ignoring the fact that Boston's strategy was to let Dwyane Wade cook and shut down the other 4 guys on the court. Effectively forcing Dwyane Wade to outscore the entire Boston team by himself. Nobody else on the Heat even broke an 11ppg average that series. The Celtics defensive gameplan was to keep everybody BUT Wade from scoring. They knew Wade couldn't win by himself and they put him in that position. It worked. It's actually a strategy a TON of teams employ in the situation where you're facing a lone superstar on a team.
In 2009 in the Conference Semis, Dirk averaged 34.4, 11.6, 4.0 on 53.4% shooting. It was against the Nuggets. The Mavs lost that series 4-1.
And guess what, nobody cares. Because they lost.
You've resorted to pointing out some empty ass stats in losses. Stats the other team almost conceded because they knew it was a surefire way to win the series. Any other superstar puts up crazy numbers in a loss (Tracy McGrady and pre-ring Dirk and KG come to mind immediately), nobody cares because they lost. If Wade does it, it's a source of pride for Wade fans...
Thanks for proving my point. "He lost bu-bu-but look at these numbers!!!"
I wonder if you cape this hard for TMac when he was putting up monster numbers in Orlando and losing. Or Dirk in Dallas. Or KG in Minny. Or Kobe in LA 05-07. Or Nash in Phoenix. Or Carmelo in Denver. I mean, they also all put up ridiculous box scores and averages on underperforming teams, yes? Does that also make you go
2006 He averaged 34ppg against Dallas, even when Dallas started to send the double towards Wade and focused less on Shaq down low as the series progressed. He still managed to shoot 47% from the field(57% True Shooting Percentage).
The series prior against Detroit, same deal. He still managed to shoot 61% from the field(68% True Shooting Percentage) as the series went on, the focal point of the Heat defense became Wade. At that point
2005 Eastern Conference Semi's against Washington, when Shaq missed the series do to injury. Wade was still able to put up 31ppg on 48% shooting. This was year 2 in the league.
Wade's career has always been a hallmark of scoring efficiency and generating alot of points, are very little shots. When you know how to create FT's as well as Wade can, this is the result.