So Draymond is averaging 8 points,7 rebounds and 5 assist on 39,20,50 %

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Why generalize like this, when folks that praise his intangibles, heart, leadership, etc are completely aware that he's not a main option scoring player and therefore needs "fire power" around him? His strengths lie in what he brings as a playmaker and most of all what he does on the defensive end. Why are you acting like it's any different?

Folks that are defending him and/or questioning the OP are even pointing it out in this thread about his scoring ability.

Never mind the fact that he's only played six games this season (coming off an injury), so it makes even less sense to start this nonsense.

Where are all those things now? How much impact are they having? This squad came out and straight laid down from the start of the season, even before Steph got hurt.
 

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Where are all those things now? How much impact are they having? This squad came out and straight laid down from the start of the season, even before Steph got hurt.

exactly
hell even the cocky draymond is gone and is the media as "young socrates"

the raptors played 5 undrafted players yesterday we didn't get our ass kicked

warriors getting blown out by double digits it seems every game
 

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And this is why we need to get rid of the box score. Y'all cats have been brainwashed. Y'all go against what your eyes are showing you.

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So now the Coli doesn’t watch Laker games? I saw a Laker player realize he was covering Draymond and just ran off him to guard someone else and bait him to shoot and he barely grazed the rim.
 
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Where are all those things now? How much impact are they having? This squad came out and straight laid down from the start of the season, even before Steph got hurt.
The squad is completely different from last season.

Nine new rotational players, most of whom are inexperienced, not to mention they were missing 2-3 of their experienced players at the start of the season.

Do you really think they should have had it all figured out within a few games?

Do you not remember when LeBron returned to Cleveland in 2014/15, and he had Kyrie and Love, and a better support cast, and they weren't winning at the start of the season?

exactly
hell even the cocky draymond is gone and is the media as "young socrates"

the raptors played 5 undrafted players yesterday we didn't get our ass kicked

warriors getting blown out by double digits it seems every game
This is a false equivalence.

The majority of those players have been in the Raptors system for a while now, as opposed to Omari Spellman, Glen Robinson III, Marquese Chriss, Ky Bowman, Eric Paschall, Jordan Poole etc who only just joined the Warriors in the offseason.
 
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So now the Coli doesn’t watch Laker games? I saw a Laker player realize he was covering Draymond and just ran off him to guard someone else and bait him to shoot and he barely grazed the rim.
Smarten up.

This play-dumb act of yours is unbecoming.
 

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The squad is completely different from last season.

Nine new rotational players, most of whom are inexperienced, not to mention they were missing 2-3 of their experienced players at the start of the season.

Do you really think they should have had it all figured out within a few games?

Do you not remember when LeBron returned to Cleveland in 2014/15, and he had Kyrie and Love, and a better support cast, and they weren't winning at the start of the season?

There is pretty significant difference between "all figured" out and getting run off the court with regularity. There is no excuse for that with players of the caliber that Steph, Dray, and to a lesser degree Russell are purported to be. Everyone knew about these changes, including Draymond, and no one, including Draymond, had them looking THAT bad.
 
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There is pretty significant difference between "all figured" out and getting run off the court with regularity. There is no excuse for that with players of the caliber that Steph, Dray, and to a lesser degree Russell are purported to be. Everyone knew about these changes, including Draymond, and no one, including Draymond, had them looking THAT bad.
It was only 2-3 games with a new, inexperienced roster.

With the way the game is now with the reliance on the 3-pt shot and the value it has, margins of defeat are naturally only going to be greater. The '14/'15 Cavs were getting run off the court to start the season and they had a far greater squad than the Warriors do now, how come you don't have the same energy for them?
 
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As if I need to keep repeating myself:

The Warriors just came off a five-year span of winning more games than any team in NBA history, and yet we've got muh'fukkas putting all this emphasis on 2-3 games with a new, inexperienced roster.

:picard:

Some of y'all seriously need to take a step back for a minute and look at what you're saying.
 

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It was only 2-3 games with a new, inexperienced roster.

With the way the game is now with the reliance on the 3-pt shot and the value it has, margins of defeat are naturally only going to be greater. The '14/'15 Cavs were getting run off the court to start the season and they had a far greater squad than the Warriors do now, how come you don't have the same energy for them?

We talking Draymond and the Warriors. I'm not going off on a Cavs or any other team tangent. Not gonna keep repeating myself either. I've made my point pretty clear. You disagree or don't like, that's fine. I'm not sure what else there is for me to say though.
 
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We talking Draymond and the Warriors. I'm not going off on a Cavs or any other team tangent. Not gonna keep repeating myself either. I've made my point pretty clear. You disagree or don't like, that's fine. I'm not sure what else there is for me to say though.
Your point is not only completely wrong but it's completely unreasonable. Believe what you want to believe, but just know that it holds no weight in reality.

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Man those mid 20s athletic prime and hungry really flame oit like that, man.

That 2015-2017 run had him just looking otherworldly.
 
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