So how much longer until Cacs take over Hip-Hop completely?

[The Message]

you're missing there entire point of this thread satan, it doesn't matter how many mixtapes or albums rappers put out, there is no Black ownership of the genre.

whites completely own and control hip hop in its entirety.

ignoring White artists does nothing to change the fact that white people have completely taken over hip-hop, which is what this thread is about.

i get angry when i hear nikkas talk about 'culture this, culture that', 'this is our culture'. you cant say its yours if you dont even fukkin control the shyt on the business end! nikkas dont own fukkin hip hop. smh

culture is cool but when it's billions on the table, its a whole different animal. we gotta know how to handle business first and foremost. theres no sense in saying this is our culture when outsiders own the all the channels to provide an outlet to the culture. that means not only are they the ones own and conrol the shyt, they can cut the head off if neccesary.

these white folks out here franchising hiphop. we dont own the fukking shop, we just manage the night shift.

 

[MikeBrownsJob]

I feel ya bruh (especially the bolded). It's like we can't have shyt to ourselves in this country without them trying to take it away...then tell us how to feel and think about it after the fact. Way too many culure vultures in the game nowadays and it just makes me not even want to be involved anymore.

It's like we pigeonholed ourselves with hip-hop and r&B...and shytting on other black people for making music outside of the box for being "sell outs".

Even look at how Kanye dropped Yeezus...and because it wasn't the traditional hip-hop album people on here are calling him Koonye and stuff (that's besides if they actually liked that album).

It makes me wish that more black people actually decided to make other engaging types of music outside of hip-hop and r&b. The sad thing is that there are just way too many black Americans that are just brainwashed to believe that anybody that's black that's making music outside of hip-hop and r&b is a "c00n" and "not black"...to the point where anybody that is making that type of music is relegated to the anomaly phase of music where you have no black fans and non-blacks are the only ones that "get it"...because black people seem to be unable to think outside of that box (in America) and therefore don't support it.

Thinking about how Hendrix had to leave America to gain recognition has me thinking that this is probably the fate of the black artist who chooses to work outside that quagmire....

That's why I have to at the saying "whites stole rock music"..It was never "black"..Whites stole rockabilly and that's where the confusion comes in. Rockabilly definitely influenced the British invasion but white people themselves innovated to what made it popular. Please someone show me where black people in mass were making the rock music we are referring to. You can't because we weren't making it. Big Joe Turner, Chuck Berry are rockabilly artists and that's where your Elvis' come from and Carl Perkins.





To the bolded. That's the truth. Hendrix had to leave and reintroduce himself. It's like Bob Marley. Eric Clapton introduced him to American audiences. Black people didn't get hip until Clapton made "I Shot the Sherriff"..

A scene from the new documentary, “Marley,” shows an all-white crowd gathered to watch Jamaican reggae artist Bob Marley perform in the U.S. in the late 1970s. Even though Marley was influenced by American rhythm and blues artists, his own music was slow to catch on with African-Americans during his lifetime.

“He had issue with it,” Marley’s son Ziggy Marley told “Nightline,” “because he wanted African-Americans to hear his message.”

Yeh your mom and pops might have put ya'll on Marley but they probably only got hip after Clapton introduced it. Black people were into soul and from there came funk and R&B..Our parents weren't listening to no Lou Reed, CCR. It was Stevie Wonder, O'Jays, etc. Oh and Yeezus was terrible. I'm not calling him a c00n because of him trying something different. I'm calling him a c00n because he whines about nonsense. It's bad music. Lol Doesn't matter who makes it. Yeezus was just noise. Sounded like an unfinished Gwar album,

 

[MikeBrownsJob]

And another thing. Hip-Hop and black music died when we abandoned playing instruments in mass. Really that simple. If you want to make music today you have to employ an all white band. That's why the Roots are lauded even though they make shyt music. New thread.

 

[Won Won]

There's like 3 white rappers who are relevant

Worst takeover ever

 

[Street Knowledge]

That's why I have to at the saying "whites stole rock music"..It was never "black"..Whites stole rockabilly and that's where the confusion comes in. Rockabilly definitely influenced the British invasion but white people themselves innovated to what made it popular. Please someone show me where black people in mass were making the rock music we are referring to. You can't because we weren't making it. Big Joe Turner, Chuck Berry are rockabilly artists and that's where your Elvis' come from and Carl Perkins.





To the bolded. That's the truth. Hendrix had to leave and reintroduce himself. It's like Bob Marley. Eric Clapton introduced him to American audiences. Black people didn't get hip until Clapton made "I Shot the Sherriff"..




Yeh your mom and pops might have put ya'll on Marley but they probably only got hip after Clapton introduced it. Black people were into soul and from there came funk and R&B..Our parents weren't listening to no Lou Reed, CCR. It was Stevie Wonder, O'Jays, etc. Oh and Yeezus was terrible. I'm not calling him a c00n because of him trying something different. I'm calling him a c00n because he whines about nonsense. It's bad music. Lol Doesn't matter who makes it. Yeezus was just noise. Sounded like an unfinished Gwar album,

This is true though my parents and grandparents weren't listening to no damn rock music back in the day.

Tbh 95% of the black Hendrix fans I know are under 30 years old

 

[BlackMagnus514]

http://entertainment.time.com/2014/...ican-american-artists-had-a-no-1-hit-in-2013/

 

[Wild self]

too late now, cacs don't even need the black artist or fanbase
somebody was showing me this super cac rappers they be on twitter with like 12 million views
making music whiter than the purest caine, thats the new rap, some shyt I can't fukk with

When Nas said Hip Hop was dead yall didn't believe him
remember all "fukk lyrics" that shyt for lame, all that record sells talk, all that you gotta make stuff from club fukk the spitting that real
all that hustler not a rapper talk it what lead to this point today

Most of the 00s been about hustler talk with lyrical skill, to straight up mentally deficient people on the mic talking about "show money" where the 360 deal rapes their pockets. Black folk sold their soul for the quick dollar and trend hopping nonsense.

 

[mortuus est]

You guys should of supported the zulu nation when you had a chance

 

[MikeBrownsJob]

This is true though my parents and grandparents weren't listening to no damn rock music back in the day.

Tbh 95% of the black Hendrix fans I know are under 30 years old

I don't even know why these dudes try to rewrite history. Were any of our parents at Woodstock? In mass we weren't into that music. Hell the history of Jimi Hendrix is greatly distorted as the bulk of the audience had already left by the time he had played. ..But it's the classic tale of a black artist getting due after feeling some type of way of white people liking it. Cue the "Harlem Shake" faux outrage.

 

[Wild self]

sorry to break it to yall but they been took it over. they just did it in black-face. they got yall looking out the window ready to attack a bunch of white rappers, but while you were at it, they done already snuck thru the back door and stole everything. WAKE UP!!!! and we been on here trying to tell yall for years.

almost every rapper that gets hyped up nowadays is catered to white folks.

i could go on & on, but 80% of things related to mainstream hip-hop is catered to white folks now. from awards on down to any major mag aside from hip-hop weekly.

and the mainstream stuff catered to black folks is mostly geared towards people who are dumb as rocks. and thats done on purpose so that all the average/below average rappers getting propped up will be able to look credible(drake, cole, kendrick, etc etc).

this chit been over black.

yall have fun.

I agree with you until the Kendrick/ Cole parts. What super-skilled rapper is out under the age of 30 that is better than them?

 

[MikeBrownsJob]

As for Jazz, the only people keeping it alive is white people. When we collectively abandoned instruments for beat machines we lost.

 

[Wild self]

I feel ya bruh (especially the bolded). It's like we can't have shyt to ourselves in this country without them trying to take it away...then tell us how to feel and think about it after the fact. Way too many culure vultures in the game nowadays and it just makes me not even want to be involved anymore.

It's like we pigeonholed ourselves with hip-hop and r&B...and shytting on other black people for making music outside of the box for being "sell outs".

Even look at how Kanye dropped Yeezus...and because it wasn't the traditional hip-hop album people on here are calling him Koonye and stuff (that's besides if they actually liked that album).

It makes me wish that more black people actually decided to make other engaging types of music outside of hip-hop and r&b. The sad thing is that there are just way too many black Americans that are just brainwashed to believe that anybody that's black that's making music outside of hip-hop and r&b is a "c00n" and "not black"...to the point where anybody that is making that type of music is relegated to the anomaly phase of music where you have no black fans and non-blacks are the only ones that "get it"...because black people seem to be unable to think outside of that box (in America) and therefore don't support it.

Thinking about how Hendrix had to leave America to gain recognition has me thinking that this is probably the fate of the black artist who chooses to work outside that quagmire....

nikkas wanted that fast money and conform to one another. From our fashion to our way of thinking. Unless you on the level of Jay-Z in influence, you can't innovate without getting shytted on.

 

[Wild self]

You guys should of supported the zulu nation when you had a chance

nikkas should have never abandoned Public Enemy for NWA (outside of Cube). When we got rid of positive black music, is when things started to get bad, one stage at a time. First, it was lyrical skill and emotion over negative tracks, then the emotion was removed, then the lyrics, and, eventually, the quality. We broke down from Rakim to Chief Keef in just 25 years and made the Hip Hop culture filled with ratchet people that exploit it for financial gain. Black folks hands are almost as dirty as Cacs in this case, FYI

 

[mortuus est]

nikkas should have never abandoned Public Enemy for NWA (outside of Cube). When we got rid of positive black music, is when things started to get bad, one stage at a time. First, it was lyrical skill and emotion over negative tracks, then the emotion was removed, then the lyrics, and, eventually, the quality. We broke down from Rakim to Chief Keef in just 25 years and made the Hip Hop culture filled with ratchet people that exploit it for financial gain. Black folks hands are almost as dirty as Cacs in this case, FYI

they will learn later on, like we all do

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

White people will never take over Hip Hop. Unless black people completely give up on it like rock n roll, heh.

There are so few talented white artists in the genre over the history that it's hard to see this giant wave of white talent pushing everyone else to the side coming out of nowhere. Technically white rappers have been in the fold since the Beastie Boys and yet still only pop up a new popular artists every once in a while. Macklemore is much more Vanilla Ice than Eminem.