So Josh Freeman was on drugs

[Hollywood Co]

Bucs went from an up and coming team to jokes in a span of an offseason


I dont know if Freeman ever questioned how black he was but he certainly knows now.

 

[DallasTxRep]

they killin this guys value.

 

[*Hulks Up*]

they killin this guys value.

They might aswell cut him, no team is going to offer much value for him that ADHD thing will scare off any team trying to win this season.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Send him to SF

 

[Jutt]

Guarantee you that if we were 3-1 like we should be without the coaching staff fukking up.. Nobody would be talking about how shytty josh has played.

 

[KingsnBucs1987]

Quote="mrken12, post: 5636393, member: 10029"]And? What does that have to do with anything?



You're one of those guys huh?[/quote]
Don't focus on just that one part, I said I wouldnt be surprised if race was involved. I'm just tryin to keep it straight football. I know how this world works, goin the race route would be too easy in this situation, so I tried to take that big part out.

 

[godkiller]

Wow, bucs organization is some real dirtbags. Pryor could use a backup, them nikkaz should give us they running back too they ain't using him right.

I don't want Josh Freeman on the Raiders with Pryor. Allen would be tempted to bench Pryor.

Can you give me an example of level 1 testing being leaked that has the head of the NFLPA coming down to an organization which may result in losing a first round pick or hit with a $500k fine?

When?

And what if I can't? Does that prove Schiano is hating on Freeman for racial reasons? No. We don't even know if Schiano has anything to do with the leak. It could be medical staff. I doubt it's Schiano as he doesn't benefit from a lower Freeman trade value. Yall act like Freeman has gotten flack he doesn't deserve. I think he sucks and would trade him.

 

[NYC Rebel]

And what if I can't? Does that prove Schiano is hating on Freeman for racial reasons? No. We don't even know if Schiano has anything to do with the leak. It could be medical staff. I doubt it's Schiano as he doesn't benefit frm a lower Freeman trade value.

It proves theres a precedent set by the Bucs organization that you tried to pass off as run of the mill.

Bottomline...you can't. So attempting to front like its typical is an outright myth on your part.

 

[Trojan 24]

Send him to SF

If I'm reading this right, you also believe he's gay?

 

[godkiller]

It proves theres a precedent set by the Bucs organization that you tried to pass off as run of the mill.

Bottomline...you can't. So attempting to front like its typical is an outright myth on your part.

I just said that leaks happen in the professional world. Everyone in the Denver organization obstensibly likes the work Von Miller does for them but leaks still got out about his drug testing. Anything damaging about a player in the spotlight tends to come out some way or another. It doesn't always mean anything. Schiano could be behind the leaks but even so there's a good reason for it: if Freeman keeps playing the way he is, Schiano will surely lose his job.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I just said that leaks happen in the professional world. I'm everyone in the Denver organization likes Von Miller but leaks still got out about his drug testing. Anything damaging about a player in the spotlight tends to come out some way or another. It doesn't mean everyone is racist. Schiano could be behind the leaks, but even so there's a good reason for it: if Freeman keeps playing the way he is, Schiano will surely lose his job.

I'm sorry, but Von Miller drug use was not protected by the same confidentiality rules as this.

It's not the same.

And nor did I say anyone is racist. I said there are those who KNOW the privilege they have in in being white when slandering blacks. I'm sorry, but its no doubt a loss in the court of public opinion.

 

[MoneyTron]

I just said that leaks happen in the professional world. Everyone in the Denver organization obstensibly likes the work Von Miller does for them but leaks still got out about his drug testing. Anything damaging about a player in the spotlight tends to come out some way or another. It doesn't mean always mean anything. Schiano could be behind the leaks but even so there's a good reason for it: if Freeman keeps playing the way he is, Schiano will surely lose his job.

Nah, Von Miller was repeatedly breaking rules. They had the right to distribute his info.

Freeman had his info leaked against his wishes, against NFL rules, right after being benched and rumored for release or trade. Defintely not the same. Especially in a contract year, this news was very damaging.

 

[godkiller]

I'm sorry, but Von Miller drug use was not protected by the same confidentiality rules as this.

It's not the same.

There were rules around releasing details of Von Miller's testing too. They too were broken and information was leaked. The situations are basically the same.

Nah, Von Miller was repeatedly breaking rules. They had the right to distribute his info.

The original information came from a LEAK which implies there was no right to release the information. It came out anyway. Someone snitched.

Freeman had his info leaked against his wishes, against NFL rules, right after being benched and rumored for release or trade. Defintely not the same. Especially in a contract year, this news was very damaging.

I agree the timing is suspicious, but that could mean the leaker in question just waited until the information was most valuable and then released it. Schiano could also be responsible, but there are more obvious reasons for why Schiano might want to distance himself from Freeman's failures. It could also be because Freeman had been reportedly asking for a trade. I personally think Freeman sucks and said so well before he started this season.

And nor did I say anyone is racist. I said there are those who KNOW the privilege they have in in being white when slandering blacks.

I understand the general idea but I don't see evidence for the same phenomenon here. First, Josh's demeanor, attitude, speech pattern, his surroundings, big nose etc are similar to full white players. I would think white coaches take well to Freeman and in general he has good rep. than Second, there have been links about full white players in the past too, so it's not like Freeman's situation is unprecedented.

Third, if Schiano is responsible, I just think he and his staff want to distance themselves from Freeman's failures and accordingly save their jobs. He could also be retaliating for Freeman's asking for a trade. It could even be Freeman who leaked the records so he gets released and that 6.2 million in remaining salary.

I don't necessarily think Schiano hates Freeman because if this was true, why not trade the guy before the season started? Freeman has been given many chances and this season has so far been his worse. Maybe Schiano wants to move on, which itself isn't a unreasonable request. The Rams should consider moving on from Bradford too.

 

[NYC Rebel]

There were rules around releasing details of Von Miller's testing too. They too were broken and information was leaked. The situations are basically the same.

The sames rules did not apply.

Now you're making shyt up.

 

[KingsnBucs1987]

There were rules around releasing details of Von Miller's testing too. They too were broken and information was leaked. The situations are basically the same.



The original information came from a LEAK which implies there was no right to release the information. It came out anyway. Someone snitched.



I agree the timing is suspicious, but that could mean the leaker in question just waited until the information was most valuable and then released it. Schiano could also be responsible, but there are more obvious reasons for why Schiano might want to distance himself from Freeman's failures. It could also be because Freeman had been reportedly asking for a trade. I personally think Freeman sucks and said so well before he started this season.




I understand the general idea but I don't see evidence for the same phenomenon here. First, Josh's demeanor, attitude, speech pattern, his surroundings, big nose etc are similar to full white players. I would think white coaches take better to Freeman than they would Second, there have been links about full white players in the past too, so it's not like Freeman's situation is unprecedented.

If Schiano is responsible, I just think he and his staff want to distance themselves from Freeman's failures and accordingly save their jobs. He could also be retaliating for Freeman's asking for a trade. It could even be Freeman who released the medical records so that he gets released.

I don't necessarily think Schiano hates Freeman because if this was true, why not trade the guy before the season started? Freeman has been given many chances and this season has so far been his worse. Maybe Schiano wants to move on, which itself isn't a unreasonable request. The Rams should consider moving on from Bradford too.

he's been worse, I give you that, but isn't his job to win games, and he's put them in position to win at least 2 games this year, he wasn't the reason they lost the NYJ or Saints games, Patriots game, that was all him.