So lebron passed kobe up

Lebron or kobe

  • Lebron

    Votes: 161 61.2%
  • Kobe

    Votes: 102 38.8%

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(I didn't write this someone else did)

Lebron 4 MVP's 3 FMVP's
Kobe 1 MVP 2 FMVP's

Championships (Team achievement)
Lebron 3
Kobe 5

Regular season
Lebron 27.3 ppg 7.1 rpg 6.9 ast 49% FG
Kobe 25.0 ppg 5.2 rpg 4.7 ast 44% FG

Play Offs
Lebron 28.0 ppg 8.5 rpg 6.5 apg 47% FG
Kobe 25.6 ppg 5.1 rpg 4.7 apg 44% FG

Finals
Lebron 26.7 ppg 9.6 rpg 7.1 apg 45% FG
Kobe 25.1 ppg 5.6 rpg 5.1 apg 41% FG

Game 7's (highest pressure games)
Lebron 32.3 ppg 9.3 rpg 4.8 apg 45.1 FG
Kobe 22.2 ppg 8.0 rpg 5.0 apg 38.9 FG

Elimination games (never give up mentality)
Lebron 31.1 ppg 11.0 rpg 7.9 apg 46.3 FG
Kobe 22.3 ppg 5.6 rpg 3.7 apg 41.7 FG

PER
Lebron ranked # 2 All Time
Kobe ranked # 22 All Time NOT EVEN TOP 20 ALL TIME LMAO

WS
Lebron ranked # 11 All Time
Kobe ranked # 15 All time

WS per 48 Min
Lebron ranked # 6 All time
Kobe ranked # 54 All time

BPM
Lebron ranked # 1 All Time
Kobe ranked # 33 All Time

To save time,
Lebron has Kobe beat in - PPG, RPG, APG,SPG, BPG, TS%, eFG%, ORB%,DRB%, ORtg, DRtg, OWS, DWS, OBPM, DBPM, VORP.

CLUTCH PLAYOFFS
LeBron: 8-19 on go-ahead or tying shots in final 24 seconds
Kobe: 7-28 on go-ahead or tying shots in final 24 seconds

Current Playoff Records Held (only player in history too..)
Lebron 18
Kobe 2

Current Finals Records Held (only player in history too..)
Lebron 18
Kobe 1

Triple Doubles Reg Season
Lebron 37
Kobe 19

Triple Doubles Playoffs
Lebron 14
Kobe 0

Finals Triple Doubles
Lebron 6
Kobe 0

Lebron outperforms Kobe in the Regular season, playoffs and Finals. Lebron outperforms Kobe in game 7's, close out games and elimination games. Lebron outperforms Kobe in head to head match ups. Lebron is 16-6 against Kobe while statistically outperforming him. Lebron is a better teammate, a better leader, has more NBA records, NBA achievements/awards, Lebron is breaking all of Kobes "youngest player to score X amount of points.
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LeBron has scored more points then Kobe in less games.

How is Kobe a better scorer?:deadrose:

Lebron's time of possession in 2015 Finals was 50% higher than RS leader

http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pla...=1&POR ound=4

Lebron's time of possession (the amount of time he possesses the ball each game) was a whopping 12.0 minutes per game in the Finals - that's 50% higher than the regular season leader, John Wall's 8.2 minutes.

Overall, for the 2014-2015 regular season and playoffs, Lebron's time of possession was higher than any non-pg in the league - he and Harden were the only non-pg's with equal or higher time of possession than point guards.

Since today's spaced-out, screen-roll setup allows more ball-domination and higher time of possession to accumulate stats, wings from prior eras like MJ and Dr. J would have higher stats today.

He needed 50% more time of possession achieve his stats than the RS leader in time of possession.

AND he only shot 39% despite only being double-teamed 3 times per game (18 times in the entire series)..

How come Lebron shot so poorly despite getting secluded 1-on-1 over and over??... High volume - Lebron's efficiency is poor at the additional midrange and isolations required of high volume shooting, so he can't shoot well at high volume.. Otoh, as Haberstroh said, Jordan WON his Finals, because he shot well at high volume - he shot 51% on 33 fga.

Lebron is an all-time great, but so is Barkley and Malone and Pete Maravich.

For once, accept the statistical facts - Lebron takes more time to score than any non-pg in today's gamee... and for him to achieve his Finals stats, he needed a whopping FIFTY PERCENT MORE time of possession than the regular season leader..

This is like giving a debate contestant an hour to answer each question and wonder why he has a higher correct percentage than the contestants who answer their questions in under a minute. Stats are meaningless without understanding the context. Karl Malone is not a top 5 all time player, yet he is top 5 all time scoring. The fact that this is even being debated makes me lose a lot of respect for the Coli. I done seen Kobe daring this man to shoot, yet you want to claim Lebron's greater :laff:
 

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Lebron's time of possession in 2015 Finals was 50% higher than RS leader







This is like giving a debate contestant an hour to answer each question and wonder why he has a higher correct percentage than the contestants who answer their questions in under a minute. Stats are meaningless without understanding the context. Karl Malone is not a top 5 all time player, yet he is top 5 all time scoring. The fact that this is even being debated makes me lose a lot of respect for the Coli. I done seen Kobe daring this man to shoot, yet you want to claim Lebron's greater :laff:
Nope.

More points in less games. :umad:
 

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Kobe's best passing seasons aren't better than what Lebron has average his entire career.

Assists is how we measure playmaking now? Good so Westbrook/harden>>>>>Lebron right?


Alright now it's your turn to deny that's what you were saying even though that's exactly what you just said.

Also Lebron surrounds himself with shooters so he cant be doubled team. Tell me that's false so we can talk about people that don't understand basketball. Tell me that extra spacing isnt why he's capable of shooting better in the paint than shaq that was far better in the paint than Lebron was.

Yall can have whatever debate you want, but Lebron fans trying to call out others on basketball knowledge while ignoring the intelligent shyt(I dont fault Lebron for this as it is smart) to make it easier for himself is ridiculous.
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
Assists is how we measure playmaking now? Good so Westbrook/harden>>>>>Lebron right?


Alright now it's your turn to deny that's what you were saying even though that's exactly what you just said.

Also Lebron surrounds himself with shooters so he cant be doubled team. Tell me that's false so we can talk about people that don't understand basketball. Tell me that extra spacing isnt why he's capable of shooting better in the paint than shaq that was far better in the paint than Lebron was.

Yall can have whatever debate you want, but Lebron fans trying to call out others on basketball knowledge while ignoring the intelligent shyt(I dont fault Lebron for this as it is smart) to make it easier for himself is ridiculous.


He averaged 7.2apg when his team didn't have shooters and he has a lower career usage rate than Kobe.


Bron better.
 

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They act like Kobe didnt quit on his team and let the Suns make an improbable series come back.

Dude stopped shooting and just gave up :heh:
lebron wouldnt shoot the entire 2011 finals and was playing with HOF's
 

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He averaged 7.2apg when his team didn't have shooters and he has a lower career usage rate than Kobe.


Bron better.

He has his hands on the ball way more than Kobe plus he plays in the East. And what year did Lebron not have shooters? :childplease:
 
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