So lebron passed kobe up

Lebron or kobe

  • Lebron

    Votes: 161 61.2%
  • Kobe

    Votes: 102 38.8%

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(I didn't write this someone else did)

Lebron 4 MVP's 3 FMVP's
Kobe 1 MVP 2 FMVP's

Championships (Team achievement)
Lebron 3
Kobe 5

Regular season
Lebron 27.3 ppg 7.1 rpg 6.9 ast 49% FG
Kobe 25.0 ppg 5.2 rpg 4.7 ast 44% FG

Play Offs
Lebron 28.0 ppg 8.5 rpg 6.5 apg 47% FG
Kobe 25.6 ppg 5.1 rpg 4.7 apg 44% FG

Finals
Lebron 26.7 ppg 9.6 rpg 7.1 apg 45% FG
Kobe 25.1 ppg 5.6 rpg 5.1 apg 41% FG

Game 7's (highest pressure games)
Lebron 32.3 ppg 9.3 rpg 4.8 apg 45.1 FG
Kobe 22.2 ppg 8.0 rpg 5.0 apg 38.9 FG

Elimination games (never give up mentality)
Lebron 31.1 ppg 11.0 rpg 7.9 apg 46.3 FG
Kobe 22.3 ppg 5.6 rpg 3.7 apg 41.7 FG

PER
Lebron ranked # 2 All Time
Kobe ranked # 22 All Time NOT EVEN TOP 20 ALL TIME LMAO

WS
Lebron ranked # 11 All Time
Kobe ranked # 15 All time

WS per 48 Min
Lebron ranked # 6 All time
Kobe ranked # 54 All time

BPM
Lebron ranked # 1 All Time
Kobe ranked # 33 All Time

To save time,
Lebron has Kobe beat in - PPG, RPG, APG,SPG, BPG, TS%, eFG%, ORB%,DRB%, ORtg, DRtg, OWS, DWS, OBPM, DBPM, VORP.

CLUTCH PLAYOFFS
LeBron: 8-19 on go-ahead or tying shots in final 24 seconds
Kobe: 7-28 on go-ahead or tying shots in final 24 seconds

Current Playoff Records Held (only player in history too..)
Lebron 18
Kobe 2

Current Finals Records Held (only player in history too..)
Lebron 18
Kobe 1

Triple Doubles Reg Season
Lebron 37
Kobe 19

Triple Doubles Playoffs
Lebron 14
Kobe 0

Finals Triple Doubles
Lebron 6
Kobe 0

Lebron outperforms Kobe in the Regular season, playoffs and Finals. Lebron outperforms Kobe in game 7's, close out games and elimination games. Lebron outperforms Kobe in head to head match ups. Lebron is 16-6 against Kobe while statistically outperforming him. Lebron is a better teammate, a better leader, has more NBA records, NBA achievements/awards, Lebron is breaking all of Kobes "youngest player to score X amount of points.


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Ain't NO ONE outside of Los Angeles was making a serious Kobe vs. Jordan argument in 2007 when Kobe literally had ZERO mvps and ZERO Finals mvps. :deadmanny:


He brought up Lebron's Finals numbers playing 1-on-5 against the Spurs as a 22yo in his 4th season when Kobe had already had a worse Finals than that on a better team as a 25yo in his 8th fukking season. :bryan:

Getting waxed throughout the playoffs? That shyt NEVER happened in Lebron's career. :usure:


I'm gonna stop responding to you now, because arguing with a retard on the Internet would say more about me than it does about you. :beli:

Still more accomplishments than a Lebron who had one finals ass kicking and no mvps.

He lost from 06-10 didn't he?:mjgrin:
He choked worse than kobe was criticized worse than kobe in 2011 didn't he:mjgrin:
He told people, including his own dikk riders he's living better than most of us after he got his ass waxed in 11 right:mjgrin:
He lost so bad he needed Wade and bosh right:mjgrin:

Kobe vs Jordan arguements were big then. Stop playing like that wasn't a discussion. Let me tell you what isn't a discussion. Lebron ain't better than Jordan. You better stop responding to me before your inner fakkit hops out and you start crying:mjgrin:
 

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I see the lebron jordan debate recently as if kobe isnt in this conversation

I take kobe still he has a all around better skill set even tho lebron has more accolades on his resume. Cause kobe played with shaq early in his career. I rank lebron 6th or 7th all time behind kobe jordan bird magic wilt kareem. I see alot of people have lebron 2nd all time behind jordan im saying no


That's the same thing I've been saying people underrate Kobe I think best believe I have Kobe in my top 6 but Lebrons in my top 5
 

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"The eye test", you could ask a gay man which person infront of him looks better. Person A is a 6'3 hairy brolic Russian named Kustov, and Person B is a 5'9 perfectly proportioned East African woman with perfect teeth. That man is goin to say Kustov 10/10.

Point being, the eye test don't mean shyt if the eyes belong to someone who don't know shyt about basketball.

:dame: of all the examples in the world you could of used, it was this :dame:
 

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very few people being objective here. lebron has motivated his teams to win in more ways than kobe has. defending the other team's best player regardless of position, creating offense for his teammates, recognizing when to pass, rebounding, assists, blocks. and to top it off shooting high percentage shots. i'd even say lebron has a higher basketball iq than kobe.

if i was starting a franchise and had to pick between lebron and kobe as my first player (without knowing who else was out there) i'd pick lebron every time. he's like the swiss army knife of players. the ultimate create a player.
 

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Kobe was in that conversation of being compared to Jordan before Lebron even came into the league nikka please. Most of that 1998 all star game was kobe vs Jordan


you just proved my point, and you didn't even realize it.

they were grooming him as the next Jordan before he even stepped on the court, and they fell short.

the hype got him voted into that all-star game before he even became a starter on the lakers.:heh:


I see your opinion on sports correlates with your opinion on hip hop....:mjlol:...


yea, I actually know what I'm talking about and I don't blindly dikkride other men.
 

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No, I watched both in their prime, and from my own observation, Lebron is much better. The fact that a vast majority of people who are paid to watch and analyze basketball agree with me is just a bonus.

The fact is that no one outside of delusional internet stans and some Laker homer teammates place Kobe over Lebron. It's damn near a consensus for people who watch and understand the game.

It's over. Move on.

THIS IS WHERE UR WRONG...ALL THE PLAYERS, FROM DIRK, TO DURANT, TO EVEN LEBRONS OWN TEAMMATES LIKE WADE AND KYRIE HAVE PICKED KOBE OVER LEBRON.

THE ONES WHO "GET PAID TO ANALYZE" ARE RANDOM WEIRDOS WHO NEVER PLAYED BALL AND MOVE WIT AN AGENDA LIKE NICK WRIGHT AND COLIN COWHERD.

SHIITS OBVIOUS, BUT U LET THEM PULL THE WOOL OVER YOUR EYES.
 

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ITS TRUE THO .. KOBE IS THE OBVIOUS PLAYERS CHOICE. LEBRON IS THE MEDIAS CHOICE, PERIOD. IF THE MEDIA SAID KOBE>LEBRON, THIS POLL WOULD DRASTICALLY FAVOR KOBE.. THE GENERAL CONSENSUS FOLLOWS WHAT THEYRE TOLD.
Prove that it's true or you're a liar. Link to the poll of NBA players where the majority said that Kobe is better than Lebron. The facts proving that little LeBron is better are plentiful and irrefutable.
(I didn't write this someone else did)

Lebron 4 MVP's 3 FMVP's
Kobe 1 MVP 2 FMVP's

Championships (Team achievement)
Lebron 3
Kobe 5

Regular season
Lebron 27.3 ppg 7.1 rpg 6.9 ast 49% FG
Kobe 25.0 ppg 5.2 rpg 4.7 ast 44% FG

Play Offs
Lebron 28.0 ppg 8.5 rpg 6.5 apg 47% FG
Kobe 25.6 ppg 5.1 rpg 4.7 apg 44% FG

Finals
Lebron 26.7 ppg 9.6 rpg 7.1 apg 45% FG
Kobe 25.1 ppg 5.6 rpg 5.1 apg 41% FG

Game 7's (highest pressure games)
Lebron 32.3 ppg 9.3 rpg 4.8 apg 45.1 FG
Kobe 22.2 ppg 8.0 rpg 5.0 apg 38.9 FG

Elimination games (never give up mentality)
Lebron 31.1 ppg 11.0 rpg 7.9 apg 46.3 FG
Kobe 22.3 ppg 5.6 rpg 3.7 apg 41.7 FG

PER
Lebron ranked # 2 All Time
Kobe ranked # 22 All Time NOT EVEN TOP 20 ALL TIME LMAO

WS
Lebron ranked # 11 All Time
Kobe ranked # 15 All time

WS per 48 Min
Lebron ranked # 6 All time
Kobe ranked # 54 All time

BPM
Lebron ranked # 1 All Time
Kobe ranked # 33 All Time

To save time,
Lebron has Kobe beat in - PPG, RPG, APG,SPG, BPG, TS%, eFG%, ORB%,DRB%, ORtg, DRtg, OWS, DWS, OBPM, DBPM, VORP.

CLUTCH PLAYOFFS
LeBron: 8-19 on go-ahead or tying shots in final 24 seconds
Kobe: 7-28 on go-ahead or tying shots in final 24 seconds

Current Playoff Records Held (only player in history too..)
Lebron 18
Kobe 2

Current Finals Records Held (only player in history too..)
Lebron 18
Kobe 1

Triple Doubles Reg Season
Lebron 37
Kobe 19

Triple Doubles Playoffs
Lebron 14
Kobe 0

Finals Triple Doubles
Lebron 6
Kobe 0

Lebron outperforms Kobe in the Regular season, playoffs and Finals. Lebron outperforms Kobe in game 7's, close out games and elimination games. Lebron outperforms Kobe in head to head match ups. Lebron is 16-6 against Kobe while statistically outperforming him. Lebron is a better teammate, a better leader, has more NBA records, NBA achievements/awards, Lebron is breaking all of Kobes "youngest player to score X amount of points.
 

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NOPE...THE REASON ITS A DISCUSSION (IT SHOULDNT BE..KOBE IS HEAD AND SHOULDERS BETTER) IS BECAUSE THE MEDIA WANTED SOME1 TO ANOIT THEIR NEXT GREAT AND COULDNT DO THAT WIT KOBE ONCE HE FUCCED ("RAPED") ONE OF THEIRS. EVERY1 WHO HAS PLAYED WITH BOTH SAYS KOBE IS BETTER, AND THE WHITE PEOPLE U TRYNA DISS ARE THE ONES WHO ACTUALLY ON LEBRON'S NUTS, ALWAYS TRYNA PROPEL HIM TO GREATER HEIGHTS THAN HIS ACTUAL VALUE, PARTLY BECAUSE THEY'RE STAT GEEKS.

I GUARANTEE YOU IF WE SAT PHIL JACKSON, GREG POPOVICH, MICHAEL JORDAN, JOHN WOODEN, KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR, COACH K, AND ALL THE GREATEST BASKETBALL MINDS IN ONE ROOM AND ASKED THEM "WHO'S BETTER, KOBE OR LEBRON?".....ALL OF THEM WOULD SAY KOBE WIT NO HESITATION, THATS ON ME.

LOL @ ALL U DOIN RESEARCH ON WHITE PEOPLE AND LEBRON....ITS A FACT THAT WHITE FOLKS IS ON HIS NUTS. AMERICA IS ONLY LIKE 12% BLACK, AND THE ENTIRE NATION GENERALLY LOVES EM SOME LEBRON LMAO. AND WE DONT EVEN HAVE TO LOOK THAT FAR, JUST TURN ON ESPN AND WATCH THE LIKES OF COLIN COWHERD, NICK WRIGHT, MAX KELLERMAN, ETC. WHEN U TURN ON YOUR TV......THEY ALL DROOLIN OVER LEBRON LIKE HE THEIR DADDY. THE BLACK FOLKS ALA STEPHEN A SMITH, SCOOP JACKSON ETC. FUX WIT KOBE WAY HARDER.

WE ALL KNOW ESPN IS CONTROLLED BY THE WHITE MAN....THEY COULD EASILY PUSH THE KOBE > LEBRON AGENDA IF THEY WANTED TO, BUT THEY DONT. AND THATS BECAUSE THEY CROWNED LEBRON THEIR CHOSEN ONE LONG AGO. PERIOD.
 

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Prove that it's true or you're a liar. Link to the poll of NBA players where the majority said that Kobe is better than Lebron. The facts proving that little LeBron is better are plentiful and irrefutable.

DIRK - Dirk: Kobe 'greatest player in my generation'

WADE - Dwyane Wade says Kobe Bryant 'is the greatest player of our era'

DURANT - Kevin Durant: Kobe Bryant is 'the greatest of all time,' Kobe and Michael Jordan '1 and 1A'

JORDAN - Michael Jordan Would Pick Kobe Bryant Over LeBron James | SLAMonline

BARKLEY - http://www.complex.com/sports/2016/...bron-james-higher-than-kobe-bryant-tim-duncan

SHAQ - Shaquille O'Neal says he'd take Kobe Bryant in his prime over LeBron

STEPHEN JACKSON - Stephen Jackson: I would take Kobe Bryant over LeBron James | UNDISPUTED | FOX Sports

RODMAN - Dennis Rodman On Judge Pirro Says Kobe Is Better Than Lebron

MCGRADY - McGrady: 'No doubt' Kobe best player I've faced, including MJ - ESPN Video

ROSE - Derrick Rose: Kobe is the Jordan of our generation

DR. J - Julius Erving Picks Spurs Over Heat In Finals, Says He'd Take Kobe Over LeBron

REGGIE MILLER - http://www.nbcsports.com/reggie-miller-kobe-bryant-tops-lebron-james-all-time-top-10

KYRIE - Kyrie Irving DISSES Lebron James! "I’d Put Michael Jordan & Kobe Bryant Above Lebron"

ARTEST - Metta World Peace ranks Kobe best player in NBA history

ARIZA - Ariza and jason Terry say Kobe> Duncan and LBJ

BIRD - Larry Bird would like to team with Kobe for the win, LeBron for the fun

MARK JACKSON - Mark Jackson : When Kobe retires, he will be greatest of all time - Basketball Forum : Professional and College Basketball Forums

DOMINIQUE - Dominique Wilkins: Kobe Bryant in his prime better all around player than Lebron - Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops

TERRY - Ariza and jason Terry say Kobe> Duncan and LBJ

KENNY SMITH - https://m.youtube.watch/?v=yTGsV-loezY

GREG ANTHONY - Greg Anthony: Kobe Better Than Michael!!

NICK YOUNG - Nick Young Says Kobe Bryant Is Better Than Michael Jordan - Ball Don't Stop

JENNINGS - Brandon Jennings Calls Kobe Bryant 'The Greatest Ever,' Says MJ Had Better Cast


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BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD BELIEVE COLIN COWHERD, NICK WRIGHT, AND THE COLI CASUALS




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you just proved my point, and you didn't even realize it.

they were grooming him as the next Jordan before he even stepped on the court, and they fell short.

the hype got him voted into that all-star game before he even became a starter on the lakers.:heh:





yea, I actually know what I'm talking about and I don't blindly dikkride other men.

What point was you trying to make other than only kobe stans mention him with Michael, when kobe vs michael has been a conversation while Lebron was still a kid watching both of them on tv in Akron Ohio? Now we discrediting all star appearances like that wasn't huge for kobe to appear even though he hadn't reached his prime. People wanted to see the REAL next MJ.
 

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DIRK - Dirk: Kobe 'greatest player in my generation'

WADE - Dwyane Wade says Kobe Bryant 'is the greatest player of our era'

DURANT - Kevin Durant: Kobe Bryant is 'the greatest of all time,' Kobe and Michael Jordan '1 and 1A'

JORDAN - Michael Jordan Would Pick Kobe Bryant Over LeBron James | SLAMonline

BARKLEY - http://www.complex.com/sports/2016/...bron-james-higher-than-kobe-bryant-tim-duncan

SHAQ - Shaquille O'Neal says he'd take Kobe Bryant in his prime over LeBron

STEPHEN JACKSON - Stephen Jackson: I would take Kobe Bryant over LeBron James | UNDISPUTED | FOX Sports

RODMAN - Dennis Rodman On Judge Pirro Says Kobe Is Better Than Lebron

MCGRADY - McGrady: 'No doubt' Kobe best player I've faced, including MJ - ESPN Video

ROSE - Derrick Rose: Kobe is the Jordan of our generation

DR. J - Julius Erving Picks Spurs Over Heat In Finals, Says He'd Take Kobe Over LeBron

REGGIE MILLER - http://www.nbcsports.com/reggie-miller-kobe-bryant-tops-lebron-james-all-time-top-10

KYRIE - Kyrie Irving DISSES Lebron James! "I’d Put Michael Jordan & Kobe Bryant Above Lebron"

ARTEST - Metta World Peace ranks Kobe best player in NBA history

ARIZA - Ariza and jason Terry say Kobe> Duncan and LBJ

BIRD - Larry Bird would like to team with Kobe for the win, LeBron for the fun

MARK JACKSON - Mark Jackson : When Kobe retires, he will be greatest of all time - Basketball Forum : Professional and College Basketball Forums

DOMINIQUE - Dominique Wilkins: Kobe Bryant in his prime better all around player than Lebron - Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops

TERRY - Ariza and jason Terry say Kobe> Duncan and LBJ

KENNY SMITH - https://m.youtube.watch/?v=yTGsV-loezY

GREG ANTHONY - Greg Anthony: Kobe Better Than Michael!!

NICK YOUNG - Nick Young Says Kobe Bryant Is Better Than Michael Jordan - Ball Don't Stop

JENNINGS - Brandon Jennings Calls Kobe Bryant 'The Greatest Ever,' Says MJ Had Better Cast


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BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD BELIEVE COLIN COWHERD, NICK WRIGHT, AND THE COLI CASUALS




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A list of 20-25 players doesn't prove your claim. You lied. Plus some of these idiots have Kobe as the best player ever which completely disqualifies their opinions. You lied. You don't have proof that a majority of players rank Kobe over Lebron. You run with that lie to deflect from the post full of facts proving who's better.
 

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A list of 20-25 players doesn't prove your claim. You lied. Plus some of these idiots have Kobe as the best player ever which completely disqualifies their opinions. You lied. You don't have proof that a majority of players rank Kobe over Lebron. You run with that lie to deflect from the post full of facts proving who's better.

I don't see any list so you're probably responding to some lowlife, but I'd bet anything his list includes guys making statements in like 2009. Bet anything that nearly all the claims are before June 2016, when Lebron cemented his superiority in stone.

It's like quoting people who say that Kareem is the GOAT, not MJ, and not mention that they said that in 1990. :mjlol:
 
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