So lebron passed kobe up

Lebron or kobe

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Kobe - Lebron is not a thing anymore after last years finals.

Beat a better team than Kobe ever did, with better stats than Kobe ever had in The finals.

Only as of last year though In my honest opinion. Last year was The shyt of legends

Anybody entertaining that is just biased, which is their right
Warriors team better than big 3 Celtics or Webber kings?
 

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Bron IQ is amazing. And that's about where the "nuance" in his game stops. You can't claim he had a "new found post game" and then watch Pop damn near win a Finals by letting him shoot the ball as his only game plan. If he had a "new found post game", Pop strategy would have been dismantled by game 2, but it wasn't. Bron is amazing off ball but I'm willing to bet that his baskets that are assisted vs isolated would suggest that he's not playing off ball as much as you claim he is. Bron quarterbacks the offense more than not and the teams are built to play off of him with the ball in his hands, not him standing in a spot (which we've seen with Bean playing the high post in the triangle).

The fukk? You're REALLY underselling how amazing the Spurs defense was and the fact that Lebron was not only being soft-doubled and shadowed by fukking Tim Duncan (A GOAT-tier defensive anchor).

He absolutely used his post game to dismantle and run the offense from the post when he beat OKC. Saying that he doesn't have a post game because Pops had one of the best young defenders in the league in Kawhi and Tim Duncan is absurd.

You're ignoring all the examples of nuance I've shown in a Lebron's game because he does it differently than Kobe but he absolutely is an ungodly talented playmaker and scorer out the post. He almost always requires an instant double team because he has GOAT-tier touch around the basket.

You asked if Lebron can win a series with his post game and he's already won his first finals using it. Lebron uses the post to survey the court and dominate on missed rotations.

Stop it, b. Lebron is ungodly skilled as a basketball player but he focuses more on making the most efficient move to get the bucket. That's why a lot of his buckets look so effortless.
 

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KOBE IS A BETTER PASSER AND PLAYMAKER THAN LEBRON

LEBRON SIMPLY IS A PASS-FIRST PLAYER

IF KOBE WAS A PASS-FIRST PLAYER, HE'D AVERAGE 10+ APG EASILY

a pass first player that averages a higher career ppg than Kobe. A pass first player that passed Kobe in playoff scoring in significantly less games. Lebron the better scorer, passer, playmaker, and role model. You fakkit ass Kobe stans worshiping a real live snitch and rapist. nikka got in the interrogation room and told on everybody. kobe not top 10, he not a legend. He a bytch just like you
 

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Let me preface this by saying I'm a Blazers/Warriors fan and I hate both Kobe and Lebron (for separate reasons). So if anything, I should be more privy to the outright blatant slandering of Kobe Bryant because he shares a conference with my favorite teams. But the dude knew how to play basketball and I'm not gonna take that away from him. I'm not trying to take anything away from Lebron either, I'm just saying I think Kobe's a better basketball player and Lebron is a better natural athlete, if that makes any sense.

Lebron James has never done anything as impressive at the rim as Kobe Bryant.
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That's like Dr. J times three.
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Lebron just bullrushes the paint every time, because he's a fukking tank, and does the same exact lay-in every single time his entire 15+ year career. The one where he cocks back his arm and throws it down thunderously. As if that's still supposed to be cool after seeing it a thousand times, looks like this:
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Notice there's nobody around him. Because he's a physical freak and an all-time extraordinary athletic specimen. There's no reason to try and guard him going to the rim, because with his size and speed his momentum is unstoppable. Thus, he gets easier shots at the rim, which makes him finish more at the basket. That doesn't make him better at finishing at the rim as Kobe, because when Kobe did finish at the rim he was more impressive. As I've pointed out, he was a fukking wizard who could twist around 3 bodies. Lebron James just finishes more at the rim, due to his physique. Plus Kobe had Shaq, so he didn't have to go into the paint.

In addition, people try and paint Lebron as some amazing playmaker. He's not Magic Johnson. And I don't care if his career assist stats make him seem like he is, the league's fast pace ups a game by X amount of possessions, and nobody runs set plays. It's all run-and-gun fastbreaks, and considering Lebron's usually the guy with the ball in his hand, he happens to be the one to get the assist on fast breaks.

Kobe was an amalgam of all the greatest offensive players of all time and covered every conceivable facet of the game on the offensive side. His skill level far exceeds Lebron, in the same way Lebron's pure athletic capabilities far exceed Kobe. It's the classic brain vs brawn, skill vs strength, guy who worked for it vs the born natural.

I'm not gonna even waste time debating this with you. Fancy finished doesn't make you a better finisher Around rim. Teams focus entirely on trying to stop Lebron in the paint and have their defensive gameplan focused on it and he's always finished far more attempts around the rim at vastly higher efficiency.

You nikkas think that artistry matters more than results but Lebron doesn't need to do that shyt. He has GOAT-tier touch around the rim.

You're looking at a couple of highlight and not realizing that the reason Lebron makes those layups look so simple and basic is exactly why he's so good. It's effortless for him. GOAT players do mechanically sound things ALL THE DAMN TIME.
 

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a pass first player that averages a higher career ppg than Kobe. A pass first player that passed Kobe in playoff scoring in significantly less games. Lebron the better scorer, passer, playmaker, and role model. You fakkit ass Kobe stans worshiping a real live snitch and rapist. nikka got in the interrogation room and told on everybody. kobe not top 10, he not a legend. He a bytch just like you

KOBE CAME OFF THE BENCH ON A STACKED TEAM TO START OFF HIS CAREER, AND LEBRON HASNT REACHED HIS OLD AGE YET TO DRAG HIS CAREER PPG DOWN


THATS WHY WE COMPARE PRIME FOR PRIME, WHERE ITS OBVIUS THAT LEBRON AINT CLOSE TO THE SCORER KOBE WAS
 

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I am not fooled by the game the media is playing they are setting LeBron up for an epic fall. All these lame Jordan comparisons to fill time on all the numerous shows then when he loses to the warriors they are going to act like the sky has just caved in. Might get talk that he's starting to look old, I can just see it now
 

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I'm not gonna even waste time debating this with you. Fancy finished doesn't make you a better finisher Around rim. Teams focus entirely on trying to stop Lebron in the paint and have their defensive gameplan focused on it and he's always finished far more attempts around the rim at vastly higher efficiency.

You nikkas think that artistry matters more than results but Lebron doesn't need to do that shyt. He has GOAT-tier touch around the rim.

You're looking at a couple of highlight and not realizing that the reason Lebron makes those layups look so simple and basic is exactly why he's so good. It's effortless for him. GOAT players do mechanically sound things ALL THE DAMN TIME.

THATS THE POINT .. ONCE U CLOG THE LANE, LEBRON CANT SCORE.

KOBE HAS AN ARRAY OF MOVES THAT MAKE HIM IMPOSSIBLE TO STOP AT THE RIM, CUZ HES STILL CRAFTY NUFF TO SCORE OVER U
 

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I am not fooled by the game the media is playing they are setting LeBron up for an epic fall. All these lame Jordan comparisons to fill time on all the numerous shows then when he loses to the warriors they are going to act like the sky has just caved in. Might get talk that he's starting to look old, I can just see it now


QUITE THE CONTRARY .. MEDIA IS PAINTING HIM AS AN UNDERDOG SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE EXCUSES ONCE HE LOSES AGAIN. PROTECTION OF LEGACY HAS NEVER BEEN STRONGER.
 

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On an all-time level, I'd have to say yes at this point.

Kobe stil my favorite player of all-time and I'd pay to watch him 10/10 times over LeBron.
 

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@Draje TRIED ARGUIN MY POINTS, BUT ONCE HIS TALKIN POINTS GOT SHUT DOWN HE FELL BACK FASTER THAN A MUFUCCA

AND RIGHT ON CUE, THE NOTORIOUS CHEERLEADING TAGALONG JUMPED UP WIT THE QUICKNESS TO GAS HIM UP, LIKE HE DOES AT ANY GIVEN OPPORTUNITY

I DARE BOTH OF U NERDS TO POST A BASKETBALL HIGHLIGHT OF YOURS IN THIS THREAD .. YALL CANT C ME IN ANY FACET OF LIFE. LEBRON GROUPIES STAY LOSIN.
 
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