So lebron passed kobe up

[Liquid]

LeBron leapfrogged Kobe years ago.

The debate will officially be over once LeBron passes up Kobe in career scoring on much less FG attempts.

 

[Sccit]

At this autistic wigger coming into this thread to spew a bunch of keyboard vomit. Didn't you just make a thread where you said something stupid like this? I think this is the thread right? http://www.thecoli.com/threads/stephen-jackson-i-would-take-kobe-bryant-over-lebron-james.538148/

Strange. I'm not seeing it in the coliseum. It must be someplace else. I'll go looking. *finds the sexually confused autistic wigger's thread* Eureka . Here's where your thread is http://www.thecoli.com/forums/the-bushes.33/

NOBODY GIVES A FUCC ABOUT YOUR OBSESSION WIT MY NUTS, YOU FUCCIN OUTCAST

GO SPEND YOUR DAY MAKING A LIST OF ALL THE LAKER FANS WHO SHIITED IN YOUR MOUTH

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

LeBron leapfrogged Kobe years ago.

The debate will officially be over once LeBron passes up Kobe in career scoring on much FG attempts.

The rage when that happens will be he most glorious moment in coli history arguably

 

[ISO]

Kobe a better slashing and finishing even

 

[Sccit]

LEBRON IS BETTER AT BULLDOZING THROUGH OPPONENTS, BECAUSE HE IS PHYSICALLY STRONGER .. BUT AS FAR AS CRAFTINESS, SHOOTING OVER OPPONENTS AT THE RIM, SPLITTING THE D WIT THE HANDLES ETC., KOBE IS BETTER IN EVERYTHING SKILL RELATED.

PRIME KOBE WAS AN INCREDIBLE SLASHER.

ONLY IN THE LATTER PARTS OF HIS CAREER DID HE START DEPENDING MORE ON THE MID-RANGE.

 

[Ripp]

Kobe can pass and play make as good as lebron and slash and finish

I remember the string of games where Kobe was getting mad assists and nikkas on here started calling him Kobe Johnson

 

[Sccit]

I remember the sting of games where Kobe was getting mad assists and nikkas on here started calling him Kobe Johnson

YUP .. LOOK UP KOBES PASSING HIGHLIGHTS. HIS PASSES ARE FAR MORE IMPRESSIVE THAN LEBRON

LEBRON IS SIMPLY A MORE WILLING PASSER.. NOT A BETTER ONE.

 

[letti cook]

Lebron has better numbers, more accolades, and a 16-6 head to head record vs Bean....this debate BEEN over

 

[bxrfan]

About that whole Kobe beating more 50 win teams thing, why stop there? Why don't we see who's beaten more 55+ win teams?

Kobe: 12
LeBron: 8

The gap isn't nearly as big, with LeBron having many more years to add on to this. Now lets see what happens when the win total is upped to 60+

Kobe: 2
LeBron: 3

Well well well what do we have here? It seems LeBron's beaten more 60 win teams than Kobe, but let's keep going shall we?

70 win teams beaten
Kobe: 0
LeBron: 1


Not looking too good for Kobe huh?

 

[GPBear]

You're obviously retarded. There is no way in hell that anyone would say Kobe is a better slasher, finisher, passer, or playmaker than Lebron. Entire teams go out of their way to stop Lebron from getting into the paint and stop him from getting into the lane but can't stop him. Lebron has always finished better around the rim than Kobe. Kobe's best passing seasons aren't better than what Lebron has average his entire career.

Let me preface this by saying I'm a Blazers/Warriors fan and I hate both Kobe and Lebron (for separate reasons). So if anything, I should be more privy to the outright blatant slandering of Kobe Bryant because he shares a conference with my favorite teams. But the dude knew how to play basketball and I'm not gonna take that away from him. I'm not trying to take anything away from Lebron either, I'm just saying I think Kobe's a better basketball player and Lebron is a better natural athlete, if that makes any sense.

Lebron James has never done anything as impressive at the rim as Kobe Bryant.

That's like Dr. J times three.

Lebron just bullrushes the paint every time, because he's a fukking tank, and does the same exact lay-in every single time his entire 15+ year career. The one where he cocks back his arm and throws it down thunderously. As if that's still supposed to be cool after seeing it a thousand times, looks like this:

Notice there's nobody around him. Because he's a physical freak and an all-time extraordinary athletic specimen. There's no reason to try and guard him going to the rim, because with his size and speed his momentum is unstoppable. Thus, he gets easier shots at the rim, which makes him finish more at the basket. That doesn't make him better at finishing at the rim as Kobe, because when Kobe did finish at the rim he was more impressive. As I've pointed out, he was a fukking wizard who could twist around 3 bodies. Lebron James just finishes more at the rim, due to his physique. Plus Kobe had Shaq, so he didn't have to go into the paint.

In addition, people try and paint Lebron as some amazing playmaker. He's not Magic Johnson. And I don't care if his career assist stats make him seem like he is, the league's fast pace ups a game by X amount of possessions, and nobody runs set plays. It's all run-and-gun fastbreaks, and considering Lebron's usually the guy with the ball in his hand, he happens to be the one to get the assist on fast breaks.

Kobe was an amalgam of all the greatest offensive players of all time and covered every conceivable facet of the game on the offensive side. His skill level far exceeds Lebron, in the same way Lebron's pure athletic capabilities far exceed Kobe. It's the classic brain vs brawn, skill vs strength, guy who worked for it vs the born natural.

 

[Champ_KW]

Passing isn't a skill? Playmaking isn't a skill? Lebron beat OKC with his newfound post game, despite shooting awful from the floor, by bulllying Durant and whoever they put on him in the post which caused numerous rotational issues that allowed guys like Miller, Battier, and even CHALMERS to go off.

Lebron is one of the most dangerous off-ball players in the league. He actually gets loads of buckets by watching botched defensive mishaps and timing a cut for that moment.

Have you consistently watched Bron play? The nuances in his game are absolutely astounding because of his ungodly high basketball IQ. His ability to seal defenders, absorb contact while maintaining balance, his ungodly amazing touch and finishing ability below the rim, his ability to stutter his timing when he's driving to stop his shots from getting blocked, his ability to get passes into his shooter's shooting pocket so that close outs don't matter, etc

Bron IQ is amazing. And that's about where the "nuance" in his game stops. You can't claim he had a "new found post game" and then watch Pop damn near win a Finals by letting him shoot the ball as his only game plan. If he had a "new found post game", Pop strategy would have been dismantled by game 2, but it wasn't. Bron is amazing off ball but I'm willing to bet that his baskets that are assisted vs isolated would suggest that he's not playing off ball as much as you claim he is. Bron quarterbacks the offense more than not and the teams are built to play off of him with the ball in his hands, not him standing in a spot (which we've seen with Bean playing the high post in the triangle).

 

[VegasCAC]

If you finish more at the rim, you are better at finishing at the rim. If you have more assists, you are better at assisting. The only way to measure these things is what is actually done on the court, not the strange hypothetical delusions of Kobestans.

Every major sports media outlet has Lebron over Kobe in all-time lists when taking the aggregate of opinions from multiple individuals. Hell, most fans at this point probably take Bron over Kobe all time. Kobe is not Top 5 in any list by a non-Coli poster or former teammate I've ever seen. His "comtemporaries" rate him high for the same reason Bob Cousy's do: it makes them look better or gives them an excuse for losing.

 

[Liquid]

If you finish more at the rim, you are better at finishing at the rim. If you have more assists, you are better at assisting. The only way to measure these things is what is actually done on the court, not the strange hypothetical delusions of Kobestans.

Every major sports media outlet has Lebron over Kobe in all-time lists when taking the aggregate of opinions from multiple individuals. Hell, most fans at this point probably take Bron over Kobe all time. Kobe is not Top 5 in any list by a non-Coli poster or former teammate I've ever seen. His "comtemporaries" rate him high for the same reason Bob Cousy's do: it makes them look better or gives them an excuse for losing.

The amount of mental gymnastics kobe stans do is ridiculous.

LeBron is the better basketball player.

 

[Sccit]

About that whole Kobe beating more 50 win teams thing, why stop there? Why don't we see who's beaten more 55+ win teams?

Kobe: 12
LeBron: 8

The gap isn't nearly as big, with LeBron having many more years to add on to this. Now lets see what happens when the win total is upped to 60+

Kobe: 2
LeBron: 3

Well well well what do we have here? It seems LeBron's beaten more 60 win teams than Kobe, but let's keep going shall we?

70 win teams beaten
Kobe: 0
LeBron: 1


Not looking too good for Kobe huh?

LETS COMPARE THEIR PLAYOFF RECORDS AGAINST THE WESTERN CONFERENCE

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

I take kobe still he has a all around better skill set

Nope