what is there left to sanction at this rate 
comin down with the hammer 
comin down with the hammer 
So Obama Announces New Sanctions Against Russia Over Ukraine Crisis and Malaysian flight
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ADevilYouKhow
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Its going to be a cold winter in Russia, better start burning rubles now.
ltheghost
Payin Debts.... N40
Russia is not going to find this shyt to be funny at all. When they start bleeding money watch what happens. That tune is going to change real quick or they are going to go to war with us and Europe. This is basically a financial siege the caste strategy. Starve them out.
This is the third sanction and they always recover.
ltheghost
Payin Debts.... N40
It's a little bit bigger this time since the EU is joining in. That plane going down has put Russia in a corner. They might recover or better yet adapt to what is going to happen but there are only so many moves you can make until you run out of room. Sanctions work...but they are slow as hell.
The EU and USA can only pivot for so long, they have no room for growth in the long run and are creating an axis they can't beat.
ADevilYouKhow
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lol they have negative growth and capital flight already. that was from the first round
Pretty much everywhere has or has had that and they completely recovered from the 1st round.
Deezy314619
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I'll preface this by saying I'm not in international/financial expert but this hurts the
'united states of europe' (
said that I didnt) a lot too. And its easy for the US to spearhead this because we're literally the furthest from this situation. I still dont know what's so important about Ukraine.... gas pipelines if I'm correct. meh you can't bully someone or another country forever. Russia gon do what they want. 
'united states of europe' (
said that I didnt) a lot too. And its easy for the US to spearhead this because we're literally the furthest from this situation. I still dont know what's so important about Ukraine.... gas pipelines if I'm correct. meh you can't bully someone or another country forever. Russia gon do what they want. 
Futuristic Eskimo
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@ you thinking the effects of sanctions on their financial system are immediate. Their long-term cost of business skyrockets without access to adequate capital markets. This will play out over many years if they don't come to the table.
Vlad busts back
It took just a little over an hour for Vladimir Putin to respond to the latest, most provocative and toughest round of US sanctions yet. The response, appropriately enough, came just after the BRICS summit in Brazil, where the world's developing countries yesterday announced the formation of both a BRIC bank and a $100 billion currency reserve to provide a liquidity alternative to the insolvent developed world's central banks. Here Vladimir Putin was asked to comment on the new package of sanctions against Russia announced just minutes earlier by Obama.
Putin's response: "We aren’t the ones introducing sanctions, you should ask them."
"Sanctions have a boomerang effect and without any doubt they will push U.S.-Russian relations into a dead end, and cause very serious damage, and it undermines the long term security interests of the US State and its people." he said to reporters while elaborating that said he needed to see the details of the sanctions to understand their full scope Reuters added.
And as was largely expected, Putin's next jab was right where it hurt: energy.
"This means that U.S. companies willing to work in Russia will lose their competitiveness next to other global energy companies."
Putin said the sanctions will hurt Exxon Mobil Corp which has been given the opportunity to operate in Russia. "So, do they not want it to work there? They are causing damage to their major energy companies," he said.
While we don't know for sure, we are confident that following the press conference Putin sat down with the rest of the BRICS, which command a population of just over 3 billion not to mention the world's fastest growing economies, and realized that for all the posturing, it is really a game of reserve fiat vs energy, with the US controlling the former, while the BRICS, and especially Russia, dominating the latter. And as long as the BRICS don't have their own monetary system, they will be reliant on the every swift (pun intended) whim of Janet "price-to-equity ratio" Yellen and her central planning kind.
We are just as confident that he and his peers are currently contemplating how to no longer be bound by the former ever again.
In the meantime, and to further distance itself from western reliance, Moscow ordered state officials to only use Russian-made cars. From Reuters:
Top Russian officials may soon forfeit the sleek black Mercedes limousines that speed them through the Kremlin gates in favour of home-produced cars as part of a push to protect domestic industry threatened by Western sanctions over Ukraine.
Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said he had signed an order limiting purchase of imported cars for state and municipal officials - a move in line with Vladimir Putin's bid to increase self-reliance from engineering to defence, but carrying more symbolic than commercial importance.
Many Western cars are now assembled in Russia, but not the Mercedes limousine, the car of choice for many government officials and often used by President Putin.
In Soviet times, homemade limousines such as the ZiL and for lesser officials, the Volga were de rigeur. These have now largely vanished from the streets, to the chagrin of some who see profligacy and a lack of patriotism in the preference.
For now it is a political decisions:
"This will not influence the market at all, it is a political decision," said Vladimir Bespalov, an analyst with Moscow-based VTB Capital, putting the share of state-funded car purchases at less that 3 percent of the market.
But how long until this too escalates to other industries and other consumers, first in Russia but in the other BRIC nations, all of whom one can safely say appear to have finally had it with western/IMF-led global hegemony.
It took just a little over an hour for Vladimir Putin to respond to the latest, most provocative and toughest round of US sanctions yet. The response, appropriately enough, came just after the BRICS summit in Brazil, where the world's developing countries yesterday announced the formation of both a BRIC bank and a $100 billion currency reserve to provide a liquidity alternative to the insolvent developed world's central banks. Here Vladimir Putin was asked to comment on the new package of sanctions against Russia announced just minutes earlier by Obama.
Putin's response: "We aren’t the ones introducing sanctions, you should ask them."
"Sanctions have a boomerang effect and without any doubt they will push U.S.-Russian relations into a dead end, and cause very serious damage, and it undermines the long term security interests of the US State and its people." he said to reporters while elaborating that said he needed to see the details of the sanctions to understand their full scope Reuters added.
And as was largely expected, Putin's next jab was right where it hurt: energy.
"This means that U.S. companies willing to work in Russia will lose their competitiveness next to other global energy companies."
Putin said the sanctions will hurt Exxon Mobil Corp which has been given the opportunity to operate in Russia. "So, do they not want it to work there? They are causing damage to their major energy companies," he said.
While we don't know for sure, we are confident that following the press conference Putin sat down with the rest of the BRICS, which command a population of just over 3 billion not to mention the world's fastest growing economies, and realized that for all the posturing, it is really a game of reserve fiat vs energy, with the US controlling the former, while the BRICS, and especially Russia, dominating the latter. And as long as the BRICS don't have their own monetary system, they will be reliant on the every swift (pun intended) whim of Janet "price-to-equity ratio" Yellen and her central planning kind.
We are just as confident that he and his peers are currently contemplating how to no longer be bound by the former ever again.
In the meantime, and to further distance itself from western reliance, Moscow ordered state officials to only use Russian-made cars. From Reuters:
Top Russian officials may soon forfeit the sleek black Mercedes limousines that speed them through the Kremlin gates in favour of home-produced cars as part of a push to protect domestic industry threatened by Western sanctions over Ukraine.
Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said he had signed an order limiting purchase of imported cars for state and municipal officials - a move in line with Vladimir Putin's bid to increase self-reliance from engineering to defence, but carrying more symbolic than commercial importance.
Many Western cars are now assembled in Russia, but not the Mercedes limousine, the car of choice for many government officials and often used by President Putin.
In Soviet times, homemade limousines such as the ZiL and for lesser officials, the Volga were de rigeur. These have now largely vanished from the streets, to the chagrin of some who see profligacy and a lack of patriotism in the preference.
For now it is a political decisions:
"This will not influence the market at all, it is a political decision," said Vladimir Bespalov, an analyst with Moscow-based VTB Capital, putting the share of state-funded car purchases at less that 3 percent of the market.
But how long until this too escalates to other industries and other consumers, first in Russia but in the other BRIC nations, all of whom one can safely say appear to have finally had it with western/IMF-led global hegemony.
Vonte3000
Chance 3 :wow: :blessed:
Putin has the answers?
@ you not realizing the BRICS will have more access to better markets than the 
EU and America
Futuristic Eskimo
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Who is going to consume the garbage they pump out other than the us or the eu? Their domestic economies are non existant.
If you mean better capital markets, then thats wishful thinking. The only one that even has one worth a damn is China and it is still in its infancy. Theyre not going to sink their.money into risky Russian debt when they can acquire safer assets elsewhere in the developed world.
