so Obama supporters got that wake up call last night

[Rekkapryde]

I know a lot of people who had the audacity to compare Obama to MLK and Malcolm X, but always caution against "expecting too much" of him. They want his legacy and esteem to be that of a revolutionary figure, without him ever having to shoulder any of the actual expectations of one. The fundamental difference between Obama - not a great black leader by any measure - and historically brilliant, effective black leaders is they worked against the power structure, while he works within it.

And that's just fine. I won't hold him to the expectations of a great leader, as long as we can be honest about who he really is. He's an ineffectual centrist cut from the Bill Clinton cloth. He appeals to the hope and ideology of the left, but he's on the right in terms of several significant issues. We've just lost track of what left and right is, and we're so busy choosing and arguing sides that we can't be bothered to notice that our culture has been so thoroughly corporatized that the left and right are manipulatable positions rather than fixed ones.

Clinton started this shyt. He moved the left toward the right. It made him electable. And it was unintentionally brilliant strategy for the future of the democratic party, because the more the left moved right, the less room it left the right to define itself in opposition to the left. Which is why the right jumped off a fukking cliff and began to take positions so extreme they alienated some of their core and made it nearly impossible for reasonable independents to vote with them. That's politically brilliant, but it doesn't do much for society. It just dumbs down the rhetoric to the point of utter nonsense. Now we have an ultra-capitalist President being labeled a socialist, even as he perpetuates the same policies and hires the same people who drained the nation's coffers and exploited the financial system to destructive ends. We get people who elected Obama because of his promises to scale back war abroad boasting of his missions to assassinate foreign leaders and terrorists. He expands war, and previously anti-war fans of Obama applaud. Because they ceased arguing principles, and are now arguing a side. Which is how the politics of the world are reduced to something as inane and irrational as baseball fanaticism. Obama DA GAWD=GOAT and I have a youtube highlight reel and some selective stats to back it up!

Meanwhile, he's helping to further fukk the environment. The pipeline is moving ahead, on his watch, with his blessing. We're building new nuclear weapons plants - more under his watch than his predecessors. He publicly fretted about the secrecy of Bush's administration, about the abuse of domestic spying... and here he is, significantly worse about both. He runs the least transparent administration of all time. Our data is their data. Our phone calls are their phone calls. His administration, with his blessing, is fighting journalists in court to pass a law that would ultimately provide language to allow the prosecution and indefinite detainment of American citizens and journalists on suspicions of treachery that are undefined and need not be publicly substantiated. In other words, his administration is pushing for the right to arrest and jail citizens simply because they decide to. This is not the sort of policy put in place by a liberal, a progressive, a leftist, or a decent human being. This is policy only a corporate puppet could support. And that's what Obama is. There's no "real Obama" who is going to use his second term to "Hit Em Up" and show you what he's truly about. His supporters ran that baseless assertion into the fukking ground, and when it never came to pass, they just invented a new rationalization for why our great progressive hope is a corporate shill, a war hawk, a status quo politician on race and class. The new rationalization is "he's the President... you can't expect anything from him!" Which is a level beyond Orwellian, even.

Obama's election is something I still appreciate. It said something about our country. It said yes, this country has a deep, historical contempt for blacks... but maybe it actually is getting better. In the aftermath, of course, maybe I even read that wrong. Still, I'm glad I voted for him the first time, and that we elected him. But otherwise? fukk him. I don't feel any special affinity for that man because he happens to be brown. His own words and deeds certainly demonstrate he doesn't feel special affinity for brown people in general. He can issue an emotional statement about a fukking comedian who offed himself within hours of it happening, but has to sit on his hands for days before issuing a namby-pamby statement about the coldblooded murder of a boy at the hand of an increasingly militarized police force. On the heels of many other incidents like it. With more following immediately.

He's a Talkin' Ass Negro. I guess the speeches were charming at first, but as the crude saying goes, don't talk about it, be about it. His supporters would have you believe that his presidency and the actions of local governments are completely unrelated, that he has no power whatsoever, that his job is simply to "manage" and spin and keep everyone from reacting harshly to him. It's truly depressing.

Obama isn't a person to be admired or defended. He's precisely the kind of person in the kind of position King and X fought against. His interests are not my interests. His policies do not affirm my values or my life, they subvert both. The principles he publicly professes are not the ones he clandestinely pushes forward. His drones have killed countless innocent citizens - men, women, children - and there's still so little information about the program that we don't even know exactly how steep that death toll is, and how ineffective the operation has been. We continue to sow more seeds of discontent abroad among allies and enemies alike. In the name of fighting terrorism, we're laying the groundwork for even more extreme fundamentalist groups who will never stop trying to attack us and our interests. Obama has done nothing but contribute to a cycle of war, death, stark domestic poverty, and racism. It's nice that he has done some good for immigrants and gays, I guess - but that doesn't somehow cancel all the other shyt out. For God's sake, this piece of shyt made a public joke about sending a drone to kill the Jonas Brothers. The President should not be taking that issue so lightly, ever. Especially not a purportedly progressive President.

fukk him. And those who shrug and say "you can't expect anything else from the President" are confessing a defeatist, cynical philosophy. They're saying "the world is going to burn and hate will always win and war is permanent and the apocalypse is imminent." Otherwise, no one would ask the absurd question "what did you expect?" I expected something different, something better, something decent, something progressive. I expected that in spite of myself and knowledge of the world. Because pessimism of experience shouldn't mute optimism for human and societal potential, or you might as well kill yourself, because you're a walking dead person inside at that point.

Even though this hurts my heart, I still gotta ride with Barry because of cacs shyttin on him. I refuse to shyt on a black man in his office as it makes the racists cacs smile.

But

 

[2stainz]

I'm pretty happy with Obama. .

I agree with that for the most part and I give him props on the econ, and alot of other things notwithstanding

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

Even though this hurts my heart, I still gotta ride with Barry because of cacs shyttin on him. I refuse to shyt on a black man in his office as it makes the racists cacs smile.

But

We all riding with Barry in public when cacs shyt on him





But this is private players meeting only

 

[h2o_proof]

This post was incredibly condescending and damn near offensive. For one, you do not know my credentials or history and my past experiences. Secondly, I'm sure the same civil rights leaders you met with are Obama supporters and I'll task you to prove me wrong. Thirdly, I know you have a reputation for being able to articulate very well, in which I will concede too but that is neither here or there. This is a discussion between brothers on a topic which is heavily debated, so if brothers on here don't have your "flawless" experience in these matters, it doesn't mean their opinions should be discounted.

Finally, I am going to give you a brief introduction to who I am. First and foremost, I am an educated black man with many years of corporate and government work experience. I have been in meetings with the governor of Georgia, I have been in a roundtable with the police chief of Atlanta and Clayton County. I was working closely with the CEO of Dekalb County. I ran an ex-offender program for Dekalb county, which consisted of 99% african americans who were looking to transition back into society. Yes I opened my home to some of them, yes I met with them on a weekly basis to assure they were ok, yes I worked with the governors office of workforce development, yes I built alliances with local organizations to provide resources to them, yes I spoke with the director of public safety in Dekalb county on their behalf.

I say all of this to say, do not turn your nose up at me and I do not give a fukk how articulate you are or how many people on this website ride your dikk. I have done what I can for the advancement of OUR PEOPLE. Have a good day.

Yeah I'm not sure what that was about from @Walt , maybe he misunderstood you and thought you were calling him out as being young because of his beliefs. I took it as a general question about the demographic breakdown amongst Obama supporters, particulary baby boomers or older within the Black community, shrug

 

[Born2BKing]

Yeah I'm not sure what that was about from @Walt , maybe he misunderstood you and thought you were calling him out as being young because of his beliefs. I took it as a general question about the demographic breakdown amongst Obama supporters, particulary baby boomers or older within the Black community, shrug

And that what it was but he got on his high horse and got defensive. I understand though because he has a lot of posters on his dikk on here.

 

[Rekkapryde]

We all riding with Barry in public when cacs shyt on him





But this is private players meeting only

thing is, I know his advisers are convincing him that some of this shady shyt is good. So when cats say he's a puppet and shyt to corporations and the military....most presidents are.

It fukkin sucks that he can't say the shyt that we all want to say and he probably does inside as well. They shyt on him daily for everything he does and goes 1000x harder and it's defintely not just because he's the president. We know the deal.

Cacs love nothing better than to see other blacks shyt on Obama. They get a hardon for that shyt. I'm not giving them that satisfaction. nikkaz complain he hasn't done anything, but ignore blatant shyt like "my brothers keeper". Is a cac president gonna do something like that? And you can actually go down the list of shyt he's done for us, but mufukkaz cuban b that shyt.

His military moves outside of getting Osama have definitely been but of course he's gonna defer to the generals/admirals on what to do.

Despite his fukkups, there's no way I'm not gonna ride for him. You say he should've done more, but how when no one wants to approve what he wants. You see the disrespect he gets from the Rethugs and cacs and and nikkaz still wanna pile on?

I personally can't and won't do it.

 

[IGSaint12]

I'm going to give him props for not biting his tongue, and like Favre he let it fly regardless of whether or not it would get intercepted. He was a shyt president, but nobody ever had to read between the lines

Meanwhile, Obama in the pocket constantly making reads, taking sacks and never throwing the ball deep.

You ever think that Bush could throw those hail mary's up because he's white? Obama since he's been in office has had every decision he's made been analyzed through the prism of the black guy in the whitehouse.

 

[IGSaint12]

I am now remembering that Chappelle show skit where he says never be the first black person to do anything. It's always the hardest for those people. Maybe it will be easier for the next black president to say something because the country may be less white and less segregated at that time but who knows. I don't fault Obama for not going off, he's tied by being the first black guy in office and a congress who is vehemently against him.

 

[Marvel]

To be president of the USA, you need to do the bidding of the elite...the people that really run this country. They are not going to select a closet black nationalist...they do major vetting, they take your ass to Bohemian Grove to initiate you while they do a human sacrifice to Molech with other influential people. Forget Democrat vs Republican... it is a smoke screen to make you Babylonians believe that you have a say so in society. It is nothing more than the Ancient Roman empire remix of the Plebeians and Patricians but a lot of you nikkas are dullards and cannot see that.

How is a country that was built on the foundation of genocide of over a 100 million natives and slavery of millions more going to find a way to benefit you? Get this in your heads...THIS COUNTRY WAS NOT MADE FOR YOU.

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

thing is, I know his advisers are convincing him that some of this shady shyt is good. So when cats say he's a puppet and shyt to corporations and the military....most presidents are.

It fukkin sucks that he can't say the shyt that we all want to say and he probably does inside as well. They shyt on him daily for everything he does and goes 1000x harder and it's defintely not just because he's the president. We know the deal.

Cacs love nothing better than to see other blacks shyt on Obama. They get a hardon for that shyt. I'm not giving them that satisfaction. nikkaz complain he hasn't done anything, but ignore blatant shyt like "my brothers keeper". Is a cac president gonna do something like that? And you can actually go down the list of shyt he's done for us, but mufukkaz cuban b that shyt.

His military moves outside of getting Osama have definitely been but of course he's gonna defer to the generals/admirals on what to do.

Despite his fukkups, there's no way I'm not gonna ride for him. You say he should've done more, but how when no one wants to approve what he wants. You see the disrespect he gets from the Rethugs and cacs and and nikkaz still wanna pile on?

I personally can't and won't do it.

Most of us early in his presidency were defending him against rethugs and racist tea party red necks...
Were all like just wait till he gets reelected and the obreezy takeover begins

But man its been 2 years..dude got killed in the last election few weeks ago

Wtf does have to lose ...

 

[OG Talk]

I think Obama's approval rating is 99.9% with Black folks from Atlanta.. As someone who's lived there and still has family and friends there I've noticed the trend..

 

[WeDemBoyz]

You know this has nothing to do with he said

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

I think Obama's approval rating is 99.9% with Black folks from Atlanta.. As someone who's lived there and still has family and friends there I've noticed the trend..

Both brehs @Born2BKing and @Rekkapryde went to GA

Both hawk fans
Both light skin
Both spend a lot of time at magic city

 

[WeDemBoyz]

You always come in here talking about having to read between the lines, he's the fukking president in the last 2 years of his presidency, we shouldn't need to use decoder rings to break down what you think he's saying. Nobody ever needed to read between the lines when ole Dubya was up on that podium.

 

[feelosofer]

I think your guy's black supremacy is clouding your judgement. Did Darren commit a tragedy? YES! Does Obama care about the black community? YES! You have to understand that Obama is the president of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. He has to cater to and compromise to equally represent everyone in America. He just can't be the president of 13% of the population. Racism is real but black supremacy isn't going to solve the problem. All it's going to do is alienate yourself in a corner.

Ya'll simple minded nikkas need to stop playing checkers and start playing chess. Obama has thrown plenty of bones to black people but he can only do so much without the media and white bread america labeling him an anti-white racist. You saw what they did to him when Rev. Wright started dropping some truth bombs and people couldn't handle it.

Obama threw so many loans, pell grants, freebies out, how is it Obama's fault if your too scared/dumb to take advantage of it?

DING DING. My sons friend basically got over 60k in gov't loans and grants, just because he wanted to work in Public Health. If a Black man wants to go to college if he's goes Computers, STEM or Medicine, the gov't will damn near pay him to go, be we out here not even finishing high school.