so Obama supporters got that wake up call last night

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Very good point. They know she'll bring out her hood persona real quick.


I'm sorry sir, but what hood persona? You guys got to stop giving these people too much credit, if I have a problem with u, or want to tell you something I tell u straight, that's my code of conduct, I wont be disrespectful but I will tell you.

If the President, Michelle or any public figure cannot say injustice to black is wrong or that Darren Wilson is a murderer that need to be charged and say it straight that way, no bullshyt beating around the bush, no I'm the President of America crap, then they don't deserve their positions.

You people can keep being sheep, but not me, I want to hear the truth I don't want to hear no codes, give it to me straight, take the action, Obama ain't have no problem taking direct action for Gays, latinos etc.

White people been in power for centuries and empowered their own, a black man get in the office for 8 years, which might be the only opportunity we have to empower his own kind and he foolishly along with along of naïve negroes talking about President of America. If their is a revolution we should start with the misguided and stubborn black people, they like Judas was to Black Jesus.
 

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I only here shyt like this from the younger generation. Black people who were actually alive while King and X were alive and during the civil rights era are strongly pro Obama. My father for instance grew up in S.C. in the 50's and is a huge Obama supporter. Why do you think this is?

I don't waste my time going back and forth with weird stans of rappers, politicians, or sports figures. You guys have some of the goofiest arguments and rationalizations one can imagine. I'm older than you, for one thing. For another, regardless of where your father grew up, his support for Obama doesn't prove anything about the Civil Rights era or Obama's value as a President. For another thing, I've actually worked in Civil Rights, and testified in front of governmental commissions. I've stood in rooms and sat on panels with many leaders of the very Civil Rights era you're invoking. I can't possibly take you seriously about this.

Reminds me of when a poster went back and forth with me for pages about the truth about the college admissions process, the role wealth and privilege play, and how many admits were due to affirmative action. I worked in an admissions office at an elite university as a fukking Dean of admission for 4 years, yet this dude who had never even been near an admissions committee meeting nor even read an application was passionately debating me about my life experience. These "serious" online debates too often devolve into complete farce. I don't have the patience for that kind of thing anymore. If you think only stupid, younger, delusional black people dislike Obama and that his detractors are upset because he isn't 2Pac or whatever extreme cartoonish talking point is making the rounds to squelch criticism of him, so be it. Knock yourself out.
 

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You seem confused...

Let me break it down in simple terms..

Obama has done a good job for America...

What's good for America isn't necessarily what's good for Black people..

Because as cliche as it sounds there are two seperate America's..

You bring up stuff like him killing Bin Laden.. When in reality if Bin Laden was killed or lived to be 100 years old it wouldn't have an affect on YOUR life as a Black in any tangible way worth mentioning..

It's just a talking point for you to repeat.. It means nothing for your quality of life as a Black man...

You bring up how well Obama has done with the employment rate as if those numbers are in a vacuum.. While totally ignoring the deplorable employment rate among Black males and the continuing downward trends since he has been elected..

“The 2-to-1 employment disparity between African Americans and whites is not closing and appears to be a permanent part of the economy,” -Dedrick Asante-Muhammad, senior director of NAACP's Economic Department


You say that he has ended two wars which is a patently false statement... And even if he did... So fukking what? What does that do for Black Americans and our issues and struggles domestically?
So black folks didn't get killed on 9/11? Black folks weren't losing their lives during the wars?
 

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I'm sorry sir, but what hood persona? You guys got to stop giving these people too much credit, if I have a problem with u, or want to tell you something I tell u straight, that's my code of conduct, I wont be disrespectful but I will tell you.

If the President, Michelle or any public figure cannot say injustice to black is wrong or that Darren Wilson is a murderer that need to be charged and say it straight that way, no bullshyt beating around the bush, no I'm the President of America crap, then they don't deserve their positions.

You people can keep being sheep, but not me, I want to hear the truth I don't want to hear no codes, give it to me straight, take the action, Obama ain't have no problem taking direct action for Gays, latinos etc.

White people been in power for centuries and empowered their own, a black man get in the office for 8 years, which might be the only opportunity we have to empower his own kind and he foolishly along with along of naïve negroes talking about President of America. If their is a revolution we should start with the misguided and stubborn black people, they like Judas was to Black Jesus.

1. I was referring to the fact that Michelle Robinson Obama is from southside Chicago (i.e., the hood). Moreover, Michelle has a reputation for being short with BS from Obama's political advisors and Cabinet members when they suggest/mandate that Obama does something that she believes is not right or conflicts with their values. That's what I was referring to.

2. I agree with you that Obama has been soft for blacks compared to what he's done for other minority groups. We agree. No rap beef.
 

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I don't waste my time going back and forth with weird stans of rappers, politicians, or sports figures. You guys have some of the goofiest arguments and rationalizations one can imagine. I'm older than you, for one thing. For another, regardless of where your father grew up, his support for Obama doesn't prove anything about the Civil Rights era or Obama's value as a President. For another thing, I've actually worked in Civil Rights, and testified in front of governmental commissions. I've stood in rooms and sat on panels with many leaders of the very Civil Rights era you're invoking. I can't possibly take you seriously about this.

Reminds me of when a poster went back and forth with me for pages about the truth about the college admissions process, the role wealth and privilege play, and how many admits were due to affirmative action. I worked in an admissions office at an elite university as a fukking Dean of admission for 4 years, yet this dude who had never even been near an admissions committee meeting nor even read an application was passionately debating me about my life experience. These "serious" online debates too often devolve into complete farce. I don't have the patience for that kind of thing anymore. If you think only stupid, younger, delusional black people dislike Obama and that his detractors are upset because he isn't 2Pac or whatever extreme cartoonish talking point is making the rounds to squelch criticism of him, so be it. Knock yourself out.
So you're "above the fray" but can't be bothered to fukking address the flaws in your argument.

Hilarious.

Don't talk shyt about "online discussions" while somehow you came in here and dropped a tome of inherently flawed bullshyt.
 

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You have been doing the same thing since this Ferguson thing began..


Giving Obama your armchair political strategist advice, then the moment he goes directly AGAINST your advice, thumping your chest and saying "You go Barry, thats my dawg!!!"

Brief example

When the Mike Brown situation happened you repeatedly said it would be stupid for the president to release a statement of any kind.. You described it as political suicide.. Then the moment he did, you pivoted into saying how profound and historical what he had to say was..

Then you went on to say that Obama the Gawd had things under control because he sent Eric Holder to Ferguson to lay down the hammer.. A month later Eric Holder resigned from his position..

:russ:

That's how I know you're a fan boy and not a serious brother...You have no integrity or beliefs of your own.. You're just waiting on a demigod to make a decision so you can cosign it...
 

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1. I was referring to the fact that Michelle Robinson Obama is from southside Chicago (i.e., the hood). Moreover, Michelle has a reputation for being short with BS from Obama's political advisors and Cabinet members when they suggest/mandate that Obama does something that she believes is not right or conflicts with their values. That's what I was referring to.

2. I agree with you that Obama has been soft for blacks compared to what he's done for other minority groups. We agree. No rap beef.


The point is, Michelle is not a baby, she is a grown woman that has access to a microphone, a platform. Nobody is gonna hold her down to not speak her mind. Nancy Reagan was all over the tv talking about just say no, You got all these black Koons on tv talking about no more this or no more that, why they aint making a commercial for no more white on black violence?

Because they hate themselves and are sacred of their shadow, when you see a tape of Mike brown Pushing the clerk, the koons are scared just like the white folks have conditioned them to think, a fellow black man like me see it from a different perspective.

Mike brown came and paid for his cigars, he has a right to leave the store on his own two feet, get the clerk the fukk out his face, these mutherfukkers love to stereotype black people and Mike Brown wasn't having it and I support him 100 percent.

Listen I ain't scared of no black person, i'm 31 years old I would whoop Mike Brown in a street fight so I don't see a reason to be scared, I don't think he was a thug, I don't think he acted like a bully, I think he was a kid that did what he had to do.

If Darren Wilson pulled his pistol on Big Mike just for talking, Mike had a reason to punch him, the fukk u think he should do? What the fukk a Police officer pulling a gun on an unarmed kid for in the first place?

No excuses, the system is wrong and should be dealt with.
 

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I'm sorry sir, but what hood persona? You guys got to stop giving these people too much credit, if I have a problem with u, or want to tell you something I tell u straight, that's my code of conduct, I wont be disrespectful but I will tell you.

If the President, Michelle or any public figure cannot say injustice to black is wrong or that Darren Wilson is a murderer that need to be charged and say it straight that way, no bullshyt beating around the bush, no I'm the President of America crap, then they don't deserve their positions.

You people can keep being sheep, but not me, I want to hear the truth I don't want to hear no codes, give it to me straight, take the action, Obama ain't have no problem taking direct action for Gays, latinos etc.

White people been in power for centuries and empowered their own, a black man get in the office for 8 years, which might be the only opportunity we have to empower his own kind and he foolishly along with along of naïve negroes talking about President of America. If their is a revolution we should start with the misguided and stubborn black people, they like Judas was to Black Jesus.
Answer this for me. What black issue was pressing before he took office and a hot topic? Did he create the immigration and gay rights outrage?
 

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So black folks didn't get killed on 9/11? Black folks weren't losing their lives during the wars?
More Black people got killed in Camden last year than on 9/11.. Should the POTUS make it his personal mission to avenge their deaths?


:mjpls: @ you thinking that finding and killing Bin Laden has anything to do with Black blood getting spilled..


This reminds me of the whole debate of what Obama has done specifically for Black people and the response being... "Healthcare reform!!! Black people use doctors too you know!!!"


By that logic you wanna go down the list of all the things George Bush and Reagan indirectly did that just so happened to bennefit n1ggas?

:camby:

I'm done in here...
 

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The point is, Michelle is not a baby, she is a grown woman that has access to a microphone, a platform. Nobody is gonna hold her down to not speak her mind. Nancy Reagan was all over the tv talking about just say no, You got all these black Koons on tv talking about no more this or no more that, why they aint making a commercial for no more white on black violence?

Obama's political advisors and his Cabinet hold her down.
 

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You have been doing the same thing since this Ferguson thing began..


Giving Obama your armchair political strategist advice, then the moment he goes directly AGAINST your advice, thumping your chest and saying "You go Barry, thats my dawg!!!"

Brief example

When the Mike Brown situation happened you repeatedly said it would be stupid for the president to release a statement of any kind.. You described it as political suicide.. Then the moment he did, you pivoted into saying how profound and historical what he had to say was..

Then you went on to say that Obama the Gawd had things under control because he sent Eric Holder to Ferguson to lay down the hammer.. A month later Eric Holder resigned from his position..

:russ:

That's how I know you're a fan boy and not a serious brother...You have no integrity or beliefs of your own.. You're just waiting on a demigod to make a decision so you can cosign it
...

:wow:
 

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More Black people got killed in Camden last year than on 9/11.. Should the POTUS make it his personal mission to avenge their deaths?


:mjpls: @ you thinking that finding and killing Bin Laden has anything to do with Black blood getting spilled..


This reminds me of the whole debate of what Obama has done specifically for Black people and the response being... "Healthcare reform!!! Black people use doctors too you know!!!"


By that logic you wanna go down the list of all the things George Bush and Reagan indirectly did that just so happened to bennefit n1ggas?

:camby:

I'm done in here...
The fukk is Obama supposed to do to stop the killings in Camden NJ? :mindblown: Good lord, the dude ain't jesus. You want him to put the marines in the most crime stricken cities in the country? Guess what if he did, you'd be saying how he is trying to militarize the country. You have no solutions just fukking complaining. Tell me how Obama could stop the crime in Camden. Like give me a strategy you think would work. Please do.
 
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