the ps4 dashboard is automatically better because of how good the themes are.
So PS4 outsold Xbox of black Friday
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What I'm saying is if Sony ceased development of AAA 1st party titles for the rest of this generation it probably wouldn't even dent their sales. Exclusives don't really matter anymore. Brand perception is more important.
I'm a rare breed. I favor the PS4 over the Xbox One for JRPGs. Most people don't play the niche style games I do. To the common gamer there is virtually little difference between the library of the PS4 and Xbox One but Mattrick pretty much destroyed the Xbox Brand before he left Microsoft. Microsoft could put out the best games this console generation and it wouldn't help their sales. The Xbox is a dying brand. It's dying a slow painful death. Eventually Microsoft will throw in the towel on it. They're already shifting the focus away from selling hardware to Xbox as a service. I strongly believe this will be the last Xbox console.
It's sad in a way because when Xbox finally does shut down nobody is going to attempt to fill that void. Personally I'd rather see the two trade blows because one company will keep the other company honest competition wise. Unfortunately for us that didn't happen. If a company as large as Microsoft couldn't create a viable gaming brand in the console space in well over 14 years honestly what other company stands a chance to do better?
Third Party games have always been the bread and butter of Sony consoles since the beginning. I definitely think their sales would suffer a little bit though if NOTHING from their first party output came out. I know that games like UC4, FFVII Remake and God of War are system sellers. Lots of people waiting for those games to come out.
Xbox has their loyalists in the US. Outside the US, nobody really cares about them. I don't know what they gonna do to increase their brand elsewhere. I simply saw the Xbox 360 as a fluke. It just was out at a good time and had momentum while Sony fukked up at first. The biggest difference between Xbox's success last gen and PS3's triump last gen was that PS3 at first had a lot going against it but it still had the brand name behind it and the games came out strong from 2008 onwards. PS3 was simply too costly last gen. Once it dropped to $299, that was the sweet spot and then the games were already on point. This gen though, Xbox dropped it's price and whatnot but the brand name was marred already and the "games" are practically the same as what's on PS4. Halo isn't a big deal anymore. I think Destiny really took a bite out of Halo's Shine. If Halo, the biggest IP Microsoft had is sitting at number 8 on an NPD after being out for a month, that says a lot. Bloodborne, a relatively niche title charted at number 2 for Feb. this year.
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you're only looking at the things Microsoft did wrong at the start of this Gen but not looking at what Playstation did right at the end of last gen. Microsoft pretty much stopped making games after they won while Playstation was releasing the last of us, Ninokuni, God of war ascension, Dragons crown, Beyond 2 souls, Gran turismo..
Then people realized that Microsoft is quick to stop supporting their system when they're #1 while Playstation has consistently been supporting their systems with exclusive late in the consoles life (PS1, PS2, and now PS3).
The peoples mindset was already shifting in the UK and the USA..The rest of the world was PlayStation>>>Any console regardless...
another thing is you seem like the type that plays JRPG which makes the bolded very weird. Just because Playstation likes to spread out their exclusive and support different types of games instead of releasing all the exclusive they have in Nov, Dec and keep rehashing Halo, Gears..does not mean they are not putting out games.
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you feel bad that the xbox brand might be dying and you fear that PlayStation might get cocky because they have no competition in the future but history proves that the Playstation brand always released a lot of exclusives, and 3rd party partnership games throughout its history even when it was on top. What microsoft brought to the consoles was online play but they also brought negative stuff like making consumers pay for online and charging for add-ons. Microsoft was bad for the console consumer because they are used to monopolizing markets for example Windows. They were too profit driven instead of support their console to the end (xbox 360), they were quick to abandon it after they won..If Microsoft took Sonys position, i guarantee you there would be less exclusives, less innovation, and more charges for everything under the sun.
Having a monopoly in console gaming isn't good for the consumer period. Microsoft forced Sony to do things they had no interest in doing. You saw the PS2's online. Sony didn't care about online like that. They were content letting the developers sort that out. PSN as it exist today was a response to Xbox Live.
Even with this backwards compatibility. There's no reason you need to rebuy the games if you already own them but at this point Sony no longer has any real competition. They own the market so they'll do as they see fit.
A lot of people here don't remember the anti-used games patents Sony had. Microsoft made the move first and the market shunned them and Sony dropped it like it was hot.
A lot of you don't wanna give credit where credit is due but the end user experience you know of today and probably take fro granted on a console, Microsoft pushed most of that. Nintendo and Sony had zero interest in creating a unified gaming system and platform online. If it was left up to Sony I guarantee EA and Ubisoft especially would have created their own online services for their own games and they probably would have charged you for them.
Even with this backwards compatibility. There's no reason you need to rebuy the games if you already own them but at this point Sony no longer has any real competition. They own the market so they'll do as they see fit.
A lot of people here don't remember the anti-used games patents Sony had. Microsoft made the move first and the market shunned them and Sony dropped it like it was hot.
A lot of you don't wanna give credit where credit is due but the end user experience you know of today and probably take fro granted on a console, Microsoft pushed most of that. Nintendo and Sony had zero interest in creating a unified gaming system and platform online. If it was left up to Sony I guarantee EA and Ubisoft especially would have created their own online services for their own games and they probably would have charged you for them.
I honestly believe its more to do with how they looked at the American market at that time and our infrastructure when it came to high speed internet than the interest of not doing it.
They came out first. They could have done it first. For whatever reason they elected not to. A console from a competitor comes out year later and down the line does it. Suddenly Sony is doing it to after that fact.
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They've never "won" the console war.
Came in third twice, they are now solidly in second place. Xbox one selling better than 360, first party games bringing in the most revenue ever, Xbox live subscriptions continue to rise.
Only thing they aren't doing is beating PS4
At that time couch MP was very popular so online gaming on consoles wasn't really "big" yet. Hell, I didn't get my first computer until 2004 and I didn't start gaming online until 2006-7ish. I'd give Sony the benefit of the doubt here and say that they simply wasn't focused on that. Microsoft coming out with a online structure first seems more like a most likely to happen scenario.
I'm guessing that's due to the more prevalent DLC and microtrans this gen as opposed to them being not existent so much last gen.They've never "won" the console war.
Came in third twice, they are now solidly in second place. Xbox one selling better than 360, first party games bringing in the most revenue ever, Xbox live subscriptions continue to rise.
Only thing they aren't doing is beating PS4
