So PS4 outsold Xbox of black Friday

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Xbox is more successful than it's ever been
you actually think that? or you just said it to make it sound good.. because i'm thinking Xbox was hotter a few years back LOL i'm also thinking Windows 10 and Hololens is hotter then Xbox right about...ummmm NOW? LOL
 

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I don't think you can compare it like that. the XBone should be selling more, its approaching half way through its life cycle. Comparing year 3 sales of 360 to XBone would be better.
What? I'm not even sure what you are getting at here? That comment was about software

And how do you know how long it's life cycle will be?
 

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What? I'm not even sure what you are getting at here? That comment was about software

And how do you know how long it's life cycle will be?

6-7 years is standard life cycle for consoles. Microsoft/Soy should be entering their peak hardware/software sales this and next year.

Saying Microsoft sold 72% more software doesn't really mean anything. I can release a product, sell ten products one year and 20 the next year. 100% increase on sales, but it doesn't mean the product is a success. What matters a lot more is M$ internal sales predictions/expectations, how much of the market share the product has gained/loss etc.
 

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They've never "won" the console war.

Came in third twice, they are now solidly in second place. Xbox one selling better than 360, first party games bringing in the most revenue ever, Xbox live subscriptions continue to rise.

Only thing they aren't doing is beating PS4 :manny:
The Xbox was 2nd. The Xbox 360 was 2nd and if the PS3 did end up outselling it that was after the support for the Xbox 360 ended. We don't know because last gen Sony was reporting console shipped numbers not sell through.

The Xbox has consistently finished in 2nd place.
 

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6-7 years is standard life cycle for consoles. Microsoft/Soy should be entering their peak hardware/software sales this and next year.

Saying Microsoft sold 72% more software doesn't really mean anything. I can release a product, sell ten products one year and 20 the next year. 100% increase on sales, but it doesn't mean the product is a success. What matters a lot more is M$ internal sales predictions/expectations, how much of the market share the product has gained/loss etc.
No the standard console cycle is 5 years.
 

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6-7 years is standard life cycle for consoles. Microsoft/Soy should be entering their peak hardware/software sales this and next year.

Saying Microsoft sold 72% more software doesn't really mean anything. I can release a product, sell ten products one year and 20 the next year. 100% increase on sales, but it doesn't mean the product is a success. What matters a lot more is M$ internal sales predictions/expectations, how much of the market share the product has gained/loss etc.
It shows that the business is growing and doing better than last year, which was already a record year for Xbox in terms of revenue.

First party revenue was at its highest EVER this year
 
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The Xbox was 2nd. The Xbox 360 was 2nd and if the PS3 did end up outselling it that was after the support for the Xbox 360 ended. We don't know because last gen Sony was reporting console shipped numbers not sell throug

The Xbox has consistently finished in 2nd place.
Og Xbox didn't sell much at all. I thought GameCube sold more. And x360 is still being supported.

But my point still stands. Xbox is more successful than ever in the past. There's absolutely no way you can claim its "dying"
 

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For the Playstation and X-Box brand?

Maybe for Nintendo.

Playstation a little over 5 years.

PS1 - debuted December 94
PS2 - debuted March 2000
PS3 - debuted November 2006
PS4 - debuted November 2013

last gen was the longest by Far for Playstation

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OG - Nov 2001
360 - Nov 2005 (abandoned OG Xbox like it wasn't shyt by the way)
Larry - Nov 2013
 
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