So Sixers tanking for Jahlil Okafor already.

[CarltonJunior]

People talk about how Embiid is supposed to be like Hakeem, but if anything Okafor is going to be Hakeem. He's probably the most skilled big man I've personally seen coming out.

Embiid will be a much more dominant player on the defensive side of the ball I think.

 

[Dr. Fauci]

Hinkie just basically said Embiid isnt playing next year


Then on Saric, he said "hes definitely overseas for 2 years...maybe longer" No buy out after a year

 

[SuperNintendo Chalmers]

Let the tank wars begin. Lol

 

[Fart Knocker]

i dont have a problem with the sixers moves, it just kills me that 3 out of our 4 last first round draft picks had to sit out at least 1 season. looks like another year of awful basketball...but ill still buy tickets. last year was so empty i wouldnt bother to go outside to smoke, just did it right in my seat

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You're wrong, and there's documented evidence to support this.. I'll leave it at that..

How you gon say that I'm wrong, with this assertion that there's 'documented evidence to support this' and not provide it?

Again, did you not read the fukking post about why this era of rebuilding is different from the era that came before Hinkie arrived? Different ownership, different GM, different coach, different approach to building the championship team, different methods of scouting (Traditional to using more analytics), different playing style, and different rosters. They're even building a new state-of-the-art practice facility. It's basically like two different teams (like the Lakers and Clippers) with entirely different identities; the only similarities between the two is that they play in the same arena and they have the same name (76ers).

What you don't understand is that it's heading down the same path.

Did OKC not gather assets in the draft (Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka, Harden, Adams) to build their contender?
Did the Rockets not use their young assets to acquire Harden and attract Dwight Howard to Houston?
Did the Celtics not trade every young player they had (Gomes, Jefferson, Green and the fifth overall pick) besides Rondo to create their title winning team?
Did the Knicks not draft a bunch of talented young players (Gallo, Mozgov, Wilson Chandler) to acquire Carmelo in their attempt to build a winner?.

You obviously have a reading comprehension problem. I said there's a threshold - building a foundation. You're not going to build a foundation by drafting two centers (one carrying major injury concerns) and a 'stash away', when you can shorten the period by drafting what you need instead of overloading at spots, especially with players that have injury concerns.

I won't fault Hinkie for moving all the pieces to start over - but there's basically no rhyme or reason to the rebuild. By the time everything comes into fold, you'll have to deal with the 're-up dilemma', the HIGH probability that all three players won't end up playing/working together, taking risks that aren't needed in order to keep this tanking-mantra relevant, possibility of assets that will have little-to-no value (as a standalone and in comparison to other players they could've drafted) if Embiid and Saric fall through.

 

[Leasy]

i dont have a problem with the sixers moves, it just kills me that 3 out of our 4 last first round draft picks had to sit out at least 1 season. looks like another year of awful basketball...but ill still buy tickets. last year was so empty i wouldnt bother to go outside to smoke, just did it right in my seat

First NBA team with a minor league

 

[mrken12]

its asking alot of their fans, but still could ultimately pay off. they are going to be terrible this fall no doubt about that

Unless they win at least 3 championships within this decade, it won't be worth it.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You want me to name every good international player in the league? Are you high? Of course you could name more Euros who failed; you could do the same thing with American college or high school players. For every Lebron you name, I could name more a dozen more guys who failed to live up to their potential. IN case you haven't heard, making it in the NBA is hard. That's the nature of the draft; sometimes you strike out, but sometimes you hit a single, or a double, or even a home run. That doesn't mean you avoid it at all costs; you do your homework to the best of your abilities and draft based on that.

It was rhetorical, because the picture you painted of 'sometimes you get Manu, sometimes you get Araujo' makes it seem like the percentage of striking gold is similar to coming up empty. You can't do the same thing with players in this country: a) they're a 100% chance of actually playing in the league b) their games have a higher chance of transferring over to the NBA - that's half the battle fought right there, before you take into account all the other factors that both sets of players will encounter throughout their careers. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that picking him is necessarily bad... it's just that when you put it into perspective with all the other risks they've taken.... it isn't a smart pick.

Beside MCW, you basically have no stability going forward: banking on a center to turn into a 4, who doesn't have a offensive skillset; banking on a center to overcome major health concerns and banking on a Eurostash who has just renewed his contract to stay at Andalou Efes.for a further two seasons.

The more you push the envelope, the more you decrease the likelihood of 'luck' fighting in your corner, which is what Philly are doing by taking all these risks.

And maybe, just maybe Saric was the most talented player left in the draft at 10. It's just a bonus for Hinkie that his contract won't begin until the Sixers become a good team.

This is what I mean, the possibility of all that coming into fruition isn't realistic.

 

[phillycavsfan]

Unless they win at least 3 championships within this decade, it won't be worth it.

This is such rubbish.

The goal isn't to build a dynasty; it's to build a sustainable title contender. If they win one title and make multiple deep runs into the playoffs, it's still a success.

 

[Absolut da poet ®]

Lol why nikkas mad ? It ain't like they could have drafted LeBron

No body was making this team significantly better to challenge in the East

We need a bunch of players over the next few years

Silly negroes

Also... Bet money okafor won't be the #1 next year

 

[Da_Eggman]

If any city deserves this it's Philly

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Who exactly are these 4's that Noel will not be quick enough to guard, please tell me?

I certainly overstated that going by a general sense (because I could see it working defensively), but it does carry its drawbacks- notably ' 'recovering from from PNR/PNP defensive blunders or close-outs (which inevitably will force the rest of the players in half-way positions). Or when teams put out small ball lineups, and you've got a SF that's at the 4'.

 

[mrken12]

This is such rubbish.

The goal isn't to build a dynasty; it's to build a sustainable title contender. If they win one title and make multiple deep runs into the playoffs, it's still a success.

If a fanbase is subjected to such a low level of poor play for two or more straight years, they should only accept the best for the team's potential. And getting a deep run in the East doesn't mean a whole lot. Wizards were tanking for 5 years and the only reason they got a decent playoff run was because the rest of the East was so bad.

 

[tremonthustler1]

I'ma say it now, Look for Wayne Selden of Kansas to be a target next yr in the draft

Kelly Oubre>>>

 

[phillycavsfan]

What you don't understand is that it's heading down the same path.

You never told me you can see the future. Huh. Time is a flat circle and all that.

You obviously have a reading comprehension problem. I said there's a threshold - building a foundation. You're not going to build a foundation by drafting two centers (one carrying major injury concerns) and a 'stash away', when you can shorten the period by drafting what you need instead of overloading at spots, especially with players that have injury concerns.

I won't fault Hinkie for moving all the pieces to start over - but there's basically no rhyme or reason to the rebuild. By the time everything comes into fold, you'll have to deal with the 're-up dilemma', the HIGH probability that all three players won't end up playing/working together, taking risks that aren't needed in order to keep this tanking-mantra relevant, possibility of assets that will have little-to-no value (as a standalone and in comparison to other players they could've drafted) if Embiid and Saric fall through.

They ARE building a foundation. MCW, Embiid, Noel, Saric, that's just part of the foundation. It's a process that's going to take more than 2 drafts; we knew this when Hinkie took over. I don't give two fukks what their positions are. Hinkie doesn't draft by position because that's a galactically stupid way to build a team from scratch. Right now all he's caring about is BPA - best player available. All teams in the lottery should be concerned first and foremost with drafting the best player available because they suck; that's why they're in the lottery. Drafting for need isn't necessary right now because the only thing the Sixers need right now is talent, talent, and more talent. Draft the guys with the highest ceilings; the guys with the highest potential of being great. The only relevant results right now for the Sixers is the development of guys like MCW, Noel, Embiid, and Saric. Everything else: the losing (which is just a byproduct of rebuilding), how they fit together, what positions they play, is secondary.

When it becomes clearer how good these kids are gonna be, then you worry about the other stuff. That'll be the next step. If they need a shooter, they'll be able to afford one on the free agent market, or they can trade a misfit piece, or they can just draft one. The draft picks, the cap room, and the cheap young assets make that possible. Hinkie's fully aware that all of these players might not turn out; that's why he goes out of his way to acquire as many picks as possible. That's why they had like 5 second rounders. Heck, Hinkie's been around 2 years and he's already drafted inside the top 11 picks 4 times.