So talking on the phone with broads is gay now?

[winb83]

Conversation is an art. You think it's a science. That's where our differences lie. I have no problem with directness as you say inviting a broad to get hotel room. I've done that but that's game if you think about it. You didn't say "lets get a hotel so I can fukk you." You said "lets get a hotel" and it is implied that you are going to fukk. No different than my inviting her over and I got a whine bottle scenario. Seems like you're just splitting hairs. When you see a random attractive woman you want to have sexual relations with do you go up to her and bluntly tell her right away you want to fukk? No you don't. You're not above playing the game winb, sorry bud.

actually i did say let's get a hotel room and fukk and even before that i made it clear i'm pretty much just looking for sex by saying that directly from the jump.

when you see an attractive woman you actually have a conversation and see where her head is at before you go for trying to fukk her. how do you know this chick isn't batshyt crazy? there's a difference between being direct and having bare minimum standards. an attractive woman piques your interest but if you're going all in at that point you flat out have low standards and are desperate. if she's a worthwhile woman then yeah you make that move. if she ask what you're looking for right now then yeah you be honest and say you're just looking for sex.

people with game don't say "yeah i'm just really looking for sex and that's it for now" they keep shyt very general and vague and indirect. they're just looking for something "casual" or they're looking for "friends" and "we'll see where it goes from there."

there's a reason you say hey come over for some wine instead of come over so yall can fukk. its because saying come over and fukk will jeopardize your chances but the wine invite will have a high probability of getting her over. that's game theory though its about always saying or doing the thing that has the highest probability of getting you to the next step. indifference is about weeding out the kinda chicks you have to run game on to fukk and only dealing with the chicks that are just as direct as you.

 

[DarlingNikki]

Some muthafukkas on here are so backwards it's ridiculous.

I've read shyt on this forum that everything from being vegan to living on your own is "suspect". Soon you're gonna get homo accusations for being a responsible father.

You don't already? Anything manly is looked down at here.

 

[Gallo]

actually i did say let's get a hotel room and fukk and even before that i made it clear i'm pretty much just looking for sex by saying that directly from the jump.

when you see an attractive woman you actually have a conversation and see where her head is at before you go for trying to fukk her. how do you know this chick isn't batshyt crazy? there's a difference between being direct and having bare minimum standards. an attractive woman piques your interest but if you're going all in at that point you flat out have low standards and are desperate. if she's a worthwhile woman then yeah you make that move. if she ask what you're looking for right now then yeah you be honest and say you're just looking for sex.

people with game don't say "yeah i'm just really looking for sex and that's it for now" they keep shyt very general and vague and indirect. they're just looking for something "casual" or they're looking for "friends" and "we'll see where it goes from there."

there's a reason you say hey come over for some wine instead of come over so yall can fukk. its because saying come over and fukk will jeopardize your chances but the wine invite will have a high probability of getting her over. that's game theory though its about always saying or doing the thing that has the highest probability of getting you to the next step. indifference is about weeding out the kinda chicks you have to run game on to fukk and only dealing with the chicks that are just as direct as you.

Right I misread you. But the point still stands. I guess you are more blunt then I am. Congratulations.

As for the whine scenario. That's part of the reason but what if I honestly want to drink some whine first and hangout? You're too focus on the end goal. I rather enjoy the process of romancing women. Sue me, I'm not as indifferent as you.

Everything you said sounds very well in theory. But in the real world my way has a much higher success rate and lands me much more attractive and educated women. Like you said, it's game theory. By dismissing chicks that "aren't as direct" as you, you've greatly lowered your chances again. I win more than you winb. Fact. At the end of the day, that's all that matters to me. How you get there, I guess we can quibble on the details of this that and the other bluntness, directness, talking versus text, or whatnot. But I win more winb. I respect your more blunt approach however.

 

[Just like bruddas]

Doing anything with women seems to be gay here. But blowing a man for money is honest and heterosexual.

why you go and say that

 

[DarlingNikki]

why you go and say that

You didn't see thy thread? Lol. Just facts, honey.

 

[Mowgli]

No diss. I'm just trying to get a feel for the current zeitgeist. I've been out of the loop maybe because of the type of work I do. Have things change this much in every day civilian world? Is this thinking whats hot in the streets today? Certainly not with my crew, we holla at broads on the phone all day. Are me and my boys an anamoly?

He stole those lines from a Tariq Nasheed episode of macklessons. Spending 5 hours a day on the phone with a bytch is a bit much but some nikkas have different games that work for them. SOme play it mysterious and in person others get all the way in a bytches head and build a house in there.

 

[winb83]

Right I misread you. But the point still stands. I guess you are more blunt then I am. Congratulations.

As for the whine scenario. That's part of the reason but what if I honestly want to drink some whine first and hangout? You're too focus on the end goal. I rather enjoy the process of romancing women. Sue me, I'm not as indifferent as you.

Everything you said sounds very well in theory. But in the real world my way has a much higher success rate and lands me much more attractive and educated women. Like you said, it's game theory. By dismissing chicks that "aren't as direct" as you, you've greatly lowered your chances again. I win more than you winb. Fact. At the end of the day, that's all that matters to me. How you get there, I guess we can quibble on the details of this that and the other bluntness, directness, talking versus text, or whatnot. But I win more winb. I respect your more blunt approach however.

to me its best summed up like this. there's the guy that takes a woman out on a date because he wants to fukk her. he uses the methodical approach of suggesting going out to dinner and they do then they catch a flick then they end up back at his place then they sit and talk and at the end of it all he fukks her. that's how women want you to be.

then there's the go for broke guy that just basically lays it on her and forces him to either fukk or reject him.

path one is the highest probability for success. but with that higher probability comes the highest probability to be a complete waste of time. it can often lead to what people call "the friend zone" and or other failures after heavy invested time. path two has a very low probability of success but its the most time efficient. you either win or you lose and that's that.

i can't do path one. i will more than often fail at it. i don't have the patience or the social skills anymore. on top of that i have a poor attitude. i'd rather strike out on the first 3 swings right away than have 3 balls and 2 strikes then strike out.

 

[Gallo]

to me its best summed up like this. there's the guy that takes a woman out on a date because he wants to fukk her. he uses the methodical approach of suggesting going out to dinner and they do then they catch a flick then they end up back at his place then they sit and talk and at the end of it all he fukks her. that's how women want you to be.

then there's the go for broke guy that just basically lays it on her and forces him to either fukk or reject him.

path one is the highest probability for success. but with that higher probability comes the highest probability to be a complete waste of time. it can often lead to what people call "the friend zone" and or other failures after heavy invested time. path two has a very low probability of success but its the most time efficient.

i can't do path one. i will more than often fail at it. i don't have the patience or the social skills anymore. on top of that i have a poor attitude. i'd rather strike out on the first 3 swings right away than have 3 balls and 2 strikes then strike out.

How about you go for a drink and you lay it on her? A little of the two. Nuance is a foreign language to you, you paint stark contrasts that have little basis on how every day interactions work. I've accidentally fukked broads without even thinking about it or pursuing it or following any scenario you've laid out. Just naturally happened over some random conversation or meetup.

It's not that you don't have the patience or the social skills winb, you're just cynical and indifferent. The simple pleasures in life like sitting across someone over a drink and enjoying a conversation means nothing if it doesn't get you what you want.

 

[Just like bruddas]

You didn't see half of the threads in there? Lol. Just facts, honey.

I seen them