So they found organic molecules on that comet...

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Not necessarily. An organic molecule doesn't just have to be made of carbon. There are many molecules consisting of carbon that aren't organic. The classification however is highly arbitrary. CO2, graphite just two off my head that are carbon containing non-organic. Carbon in rocks would be mostly inorganic.


A comet has hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, helium, and many more simple atoms. Space is full of things such as radiation, heat, cold, gases, pressure and other chemicals that facilitate the formation of simple compounds via natural chemical reactions. Chemistry can happen anywhere. That's really all there is to it. Creating organic molecules is not hard...getting organic molecules to form more complex structures leading to life is the hard part.

To clarify, gases like methane, and simple alcohols are small and organic. Both of these (and many more) have been identified in space already.
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Told y'all a few threads back but y'all ain't hear me tho :sas1:

What excites me is not how we got to the comet, but what we will find. Water, amino acids and other building blocks to life. To truly confirm it. Then it won't seem crazy that large blocks of ice can slam into planets and create...what? Molecules, matter, RNA ...Life. Because it isn't crazy that stars can explode, and create new atoms. New matter. And that matter creates planets, and comets that crash into planets with life's building blocks. And stars explode everywhere and planets exist everywhere and comets exist everywhere that have those same building blocks. Which means life is... :ohhh:


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Not necessarily. An organic molecule doesn't just have to be made of carbon. There are many molecules consisting of carbon that aren't organic.
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From what I recall in my organic chem days
it has to contain carbon and hydrogen and the tetramers are of seminal importance due to their drop in density as solids
 

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From what I recall in my organic chem days
it has to contain carbon and hydrogen and the tetramers are of seminal importance due to their drop in density as solids
The distinction b/w them really comes down to back in old days when it was believed only living things could create organic molecules. A certain "life force" was needed to make organic compounds. This was debunked when urea was synthesized but the convention has remained. There are certain trends, such as organic compounds are volatile, liquid at room temp and have low boiling points, while inorganic compounds have high boiling points and are solid at room temp...but there are exceptions in both cases.
 

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The distinction b/w them really comes down to back in old days when it was believed only living things could create organic molecules. A certain "life force" was needed to make organic compounds. This was debunked when urea was synthesized but the convention has remained. There are certain trends, such as organic compounds are volatile, liquid at room temp and have low boiling points, while inorganic compounds have high boiling points and are solid at room temp...but there are exceptions in both cases.
I have no idea what you are talking about or where you are getting this strange "info" from but here is my source
Solomons Organic Chemistry 6th edition (my undergrad orgo "102" text)
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I have no idea what you are talking about or where you are getting this strange "info" from but here is my source
Solomons Organic Chemistry 6th edition (my undergrad orgo "102" text)
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Why are you confused? All carbon compounds are not organic. I explained why clearly. Carbonated, monoxides and dioxides of carbon, and a couple other groupings are all inorganic. It's a historic convention you should Google. It was believed only living things could produce organic molecules. That was debunked. There are a few other distinctions as well but they aren't true all the time. You quoted me first and it didn't make sense so I clarified for you. Your textbook post is cool btw....I also have chemistry textbooks I can scan :heh: ...all organic compounds have carbon....all carbon compounds are not organic.
 
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