So they found organic molecules on that comet...

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Why are you confused? All carbon compounds are not organic. I explained why clearly. You quoted me first and it didn't make sense so I clarified for you. Your textbook post is cool btw....I also have chemistry textbooks I can scan :heh: ...all organic compounds have carbon....all carbon compounds are not organic.
who is trying to define all carbon compounds?
This is your quote that I was refuting
Not necessarily. An organic molecule doesn't just have to be made of carbon.
Because I didn't think anyone here thought organic compounds, the stuff of life, were made solely of carbon, I assumed you were implying that there is another element that defines organic chemistry other than carbon.
 

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who is trying to define all carbon compounds?
This is your quote that I was refuting

Because I didn't think anyone here thought organic compounds, the stuff of life, were made solely of carbon, I assumed you were implying that there is another element that defines organic chemistry other than carbon.
Of course that's not what I was implying. It's just false to say anything with carbon is organic. Which was what the poster I originally quoted was trying to do. He was corrected and dapped me and we moved on. I still don't get what we are going back and forth about...or why you thought I was saying organic compounds aren't made up of carbon. There are other criteria and really the only REAL reason there is a distinction is because we used to think that only living things could create certain organic compounds. Once we synthesized one ourselves by mistake (urea), that life force theory was debunked but the inorganic/organic titles remained. :salute:
 

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I still don't get [...] why you thought I was saying organic compounds aren't made up of carbon.
:leostare:
Because I didn't think anyone here thought organic compounds, the stuff of life, were made solely of carbon, I assumed you were implying that there is another element that defines organic chemistry other than carbon.
 

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move the arguments brehs :troll:

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I'm not arguing...

only militant atheist are stuck in that Mode.

Do you have the answer to the question?
 

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Fascinating news. I've been reading a little into the panspermia theory, and while I'm not saying it's a concrete fact as to how life came to be on this planet, it's definitely possible.

I wasn't going to add in any religious discussion, but it's already started.. so
The discussion between @tmonster and @OneManGang is a prime example of science. Two or more parties seek to root out inaccuracies and come to the truth. Meanwhile religion is just sitting in a corner shouting 'i'm right!' to any retard that listens.

Science:birdman::salute:
 

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Not necessarily. An organic molecule doesn't just have to be made of carbon. There are many molecules consisting of carbon that aren't organic. The classification however is highly arbitrary. CO2, graphite just two off my head that are carbon containing non-organic. Carbon in rocks would be mostly inorganic.


A comet has hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, helium, and many more simple atoms. Space is full of things such as radiation, heat, cold, gases, pressure and other chemicals that facilitate the formation of simple compounds via natural chemical reactions. Chemistry can happen anywhere. That's really all there is to it. Creating organic molecules is not hard...getting organic molecules to form more complex structures leading to life is the hard part.

To clarify, gases like methane, and simple alcohols are small and organic. Both of these (and many more) have been identified in space already.
So in short...

There is nothing to see here

Got it.
 

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You raise a good point

But don't bring up that religious bullshyt. Thats even worse than not knowing

Using a fairy tale to explain life
What religious bullshyt...??


:whew: You know its serious when people get upset at shyt you didn't even say.... I make a post, go to bed.. wake up... get coffee and 5 poster got panties in a twist:heh:

A poster said.... something collided to create LIFE ON EARTH.... implying the organic material has something to do with the formulation of life.....

So I just said how that those chem blocks get on the comets -- Did something also collide with those to get them there? :ld:
 

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joeychizzle said:
Meanwhile religion is just sitting in a corner shouting 'i'm right!' to any retard that listens.

:whoa:

More like 'A couple quasi-religious retards....' since the rational theistic individuals already came to terms with the possibility of extraterrestrial life CENTURIES ago.

Fundies gonna fundy.​
 

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i think it prolly has something to do with water being on comets, but other than that I don't really have anything to expound on the situation..maybe some of our organic coli chemists can drop some knowledge
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Thank you for your insight.. There is no way I'd ever image that water had anything to do with it.

Especially with all these stars laying around.
 

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What religious bullshyt...??


:whew: You know its serious when people get upset at shyt you didn't even say.... I make a post, go to bed.. wake up... get coffee and 5 poster got panties in a twist:heh:

A poster said.... something collided to create LIFE ON EARTH.... implying the organic material has something to do with the formulation of life.....

So I just said how that those chem blocks get on the comets -- Did something also collide with those to get them there? :ld:
Do you believe in creation as described in the bible?
 

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Do you believe in creation as described in the bible?

not really.

but in the Quran it goes along with big bang and evolution. Quran states, everything was at one point - then creation happened after the explosion then organisms developed from the water and ground. This is back by science and the Quran encourages gaining knowledge... So this is what I believe:yeshrug:



Doesn't really matter though....... for example, if someone did an interview with my kids they'd say nothing of the Quran. ... they'd probably say some weird shyt like Will n Jadas kids.

We promote science. I asked a question. If someone is insecure because of another posters religion (and make assumptions about that person) then that's their own issue.

I wasn't trying to stomp these fakkits:sas2:
 

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So in short...

There is nothing to see here

Got it.
It's still interesting, but until they say what kind of organic molecules they found its pretty much slow news day stuff. If they find complex organic chemicals in space then I'd be :ohhh:
 

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how do you think it happened then? was there a location like eden where life first started?
i think the universe was a dense space.. then something popped it off.
then there were simple organisms... that evolved.
I think that of course a spot like Eden existed - how could it not.

an area in africa with only 1 sex of human then another sex. I have a theory that it was more likely the woman that was their first - but no religious text states this - so I'll fall back because there must be some reason why it Always states that it was a male first (which to me, scientifically doesn't make sense)....

Even if a creator exist and we Proved that -- WHY da fukk would he create a male first? NTM everyone starts off as a woman in the womb + the important dna is passed through women, etc.

Anyway, what happened is that an intelligent force designed the perfect patterns .
 
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