So we gon act like Roy Jones didn't tie Marciano's record?

[R=G]

roy is probably my 4th or 5 favourite boxer ever
but u really tellin me can OUTBOX floyd mayweather?
floyd wouldnt knock him out
he definitely outsmart him though

Is this some kind of new Coli inside joke? Do these cats even know who Roy Jones is? Michael Jordan bowed down to this guy when they got them all together in 1999 on ESPN for the big winners of the year. They kept trying to talk about Jordan but he kept going back to Roy like he was his biggest stan

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Same argument could be made about Ricardo Lopez, who was a way better fighter.

 

[R=G]

roy would have more trouble hitting floyd than floyd would have of hittin him

That's a complete fukking lie and you know it That's gotta be one of the most absurd things ever posted here.

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

He played in some shyt league game before a fight one time. , even the haters would have to admit Floyd would not do that.

 

[Jutt]

GOAT ring IQ?? Do tell

i see you skipped the part where i said arguably....but i dont expect half you nikkas to read anyway

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Dude is one of the most skilled fighters ever. Not to mention he arguably has the GOAT ring IQ

Ricardo Lopez got Mayweather on that. Lopez was truly something. Only diehards give him the credit he deserves.

 

[Jutt]

Ricardo Lopez got Mayweather on that. Lopez was truly something. Only diehards give him the credit he deserves.

ill give you that..but thats why i said arguably. Theres a lot of guys you can make cases for,

 

[seemorecizzy]

That's a complete fukking lie and you know it That's gotta be one of the most absurd things ever posted here.

your too caught up in speed and reflexes
i love both fighters
and it would be close
but i think floyd winss
if u think my statement is a lie or absurd
you either dont watch boxing or u a floyd hater

skill beats speed
and floyd is fast as fukk too!

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

If Floyd was naturally the size of Roy then I would think Floyd would win, but not Floyd moving up in weight.

 

[Black Ball]

What exactly are we arguing here just to be clear?

1. Who is better P4P or the greater overall fighter?
My stance is Floyd takes it in this dept. He will be ranked higher than Roy I think when it's all said and done. Plus Floyd is mentally tougher than Roy, a more skilled defensive fighter, and better at pure offensive execution.

2. Who would win if a real life fight at 154?
I think this is dumb to get into 1st of all because these fighters are not close in weight and neither of their primes are at this weight, nor have they spent extended time in their careers at this weight.

But ok lets go there. Floyd is near his physical prime & at his mental prime at this weight. He's truly great in all areas except knock out punching power. Roy at this weight is not in his prime. Roy is just beginning his career and he fights with his hands down, and defends with his legs & reflexes. The bigger thing is that Roy is extra cautious at this weight even against bum ass fighters. Imagine if Roy knew he was fighting a great accomplished fighter, who is nearly as skilled & as fast as him & undefeated. How cautious do you think he would be then?

Fight would be mad boring and either could conceivably outpoint the other. Floyd being the better defensive fighter and far more experienced & seasoned, I'd definitely favor him.

3. A prime Roy vs a Prime Floyd?
This is even more absurd. So Floyd at 147 vs Roy at 168? Why even argue such nonsense?

 

[seemorecizzy]

What exactly are we arguing here just to be clear?

1. Who is better P4P or the greater overall fighter?
My stance is Floyd takes it in this dept. He will be ranked higher than Roy I think when it's all said and done. Plus Floyd is mentally tougher than Roy, a more skilled defensive fighter, and better at pure offensive execution.

2. Who would win if a real life fight at 154?
I think this is dumb to get into 1st of all because these fighters are not close in weight and neither of their primes are at this weight, nor have they spent extended time in their careers at this weight.

But ok lets go there. Floyd is near his physical prime & at his mental prime at this weight. He's truly great in all areas except knock out punching power. Roy at this weight is not in his prime. Roy is just beginning his career and he fights with his hands down, and defends with his legs & reflexes. The bigger thing is that Roy is extra cautious at this weight even against bum ass fighters. Imagine if Roy knew he was fighting a great accomplished fighter, who is nearly as skilled & as fast as him & undefeated. How cautious do you think he would be then?

Fight would be mad boring and either could conceivably outpoint the other. Floyd being the better defensive fighter and far more experienced & seasoned, I'd definitely favor him.

3. A prime Roy vs a Prime Floyd?
This is even more absurd. So Floyd at 147 vs Roy at 168? Why even argue such nonsense?

u speak a lot of truth

 

[R=G]

your too caught up in speed and reflexes
i love both fighters
and it would be close
but i think floyd winss
if u think my statement is a lie or absurd
you either dont watch boxing or u a floyd hater

skill beats speed
and floyd is fast as fukk too!

No. I'm caught up what I've seen Roy do in his prime and what you're envisioning? It's just would never happen.

 

[dontreadthis]

I'm not even a huge RJJ fan but some of y'all in this thread are gettin downright disrespectful when it comes to his legacy

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Yall remember back in the days nikkas is something else

How many times did RJJ fight somebody N you said who tf is that?? Dude was fighting mandatories for yrs, cops, garbage men, construction workers...the worst part was he wouldnt even finish the bums off

Yall musta forgot Roy doing horrible ppv #s
Yall musta forgot Reluctant Roy

Great Talent yes, speed reflexes yes

BUT boxing is more than that

If we talkin _______ boxer was in his prime at his Natural weight vs RJJ thers a few id take to get that W

 

[Achille]

I'm not even a huge RJJ fan but some of y'all in this thread are gettin downright disrespectful when it comes to his legacy

Pretty much people in here only care what someone has done later in their careers or you only as good as your last fight to them. Now we have people trying to downplay his accolades such as him being the first former middleweight champion to win a heavyweight title in 106 years which is in the history books. If it was so easy how come more fighters are not doing it on a regular basis? I know some of yall going to come back and say well it was John Ruiz he sucks; he gave some legit heavyweights at the time some challenging fights and nobody wanted to fight him because of his style.