So we gon act like Roy Jones didn't tie Marciano's record?

[Black_Jesus]

What exactly are we arguing here just to be clear?

1. Who is better P4P or the greater overall fighter?
My stance is Floyd takes it in this dept. He will be ranked higher than Roy I think when it's all said and done. Plus Floyd is mentally tougher than Roy, a more skilled defensive fighter, and better at pure offensive execution.

2. Who would win if a real life fight at 154?
I think this is dumb to get into 1st of all because these fighters are not close in weight and neither of their primes are at this weight, nor have they spent extended time in their careers at this weight.

But ok lets go there. Floyd is near his physical prime & at his mental prime at this weight. He's truly great in all areas except knock out punching power. Roy at this weight is not in his prime. Roy is just beginning his career and he fights with his hands down, and defends with his legs & reflexes. The bigger thing is that Roy is extra cautious at this weight even against bum ass fighters. Imagine if Roy knew he was fighting a great accomplished fighter, who is nearly as skilled & as fast as him & undefeated. How cautious do you think he would be then?

Fight would be mad boring and either could conceivably outpoint the other. Floyd being the better defensive fighter and far more experienced & seasoned, I'd definitely favor him.

3. A prime Roy vs a Prime Floyd?
This is even more absurd. So Floyd at 147 vs Roy at 168? Why even argue such nonsense?

A prime Floyd vs a prime Roy... if Roy was somehow able to stay within 150-160 range

Since you want to over analyze my post.. obviously in their primes they would both be seasoned... but like I said, even if you take the weight difference away, Roy kills Floyd easily.. Roy would also give a prime Tyson the toughest fight of his career...
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Floyd would not know what to do against Roy's style, His defense came from his godly footwork.. Yes his D was better than Floyd's because of the footwork. No one even had a clue weather he had a weak chin or not until he finally slowed down.. Roy IMO was the better counter puncher as well, and was faster(not by much) and was more powerful... And lets not act like Roy's ring IQ wasn't on par with if not greater than Floyd..

 

[True Blue Moon]

NAH to all this shyt

 

[seemorecizzy]

A prime Floyd vs a prime Roy... if Roy was somehow able to stay within 150-160 range

Since you want to over analyze my post.. obviously in their primes they would both be seasoned... but like I said, even if you take the weight difference away, Roy kills Floyd easily.. Roy would also give a prime Tyson the toughest fight of his career...
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Floyd would not know what to do against Roy's style, His defense came from his godly footwork.. Yes his D was better than Floyd's because of the footwork. No one even had a clue weather he had a weak chin or not until he finally slowed down.. Roy IMO was the better counter puncher as well, and was faster(not by much) and was more powerful... And lets not act like Roy's ring IQ wasn't on par with if not greater than Floyd..

just when you think youve heard it all

Your a retard homie
I wont even address the floyd shyt u sayin
U lost all credibility with dat one

 

[R=G]

Roy Jones vs Tyson was considered if Tyson would of won that Lenox Lewis fight. It was gonna be a $100 million fight and of course the draw was easy....if Tyson hits Roy solidly, it should be over, RIGHT? Or would Roy Jones do what he ALWAYS did and that's make someone who everyone respected look like a bum with his unmatched and unheard of speed and gifts? Would of been quite the sight....

 

[mastermind]

I love Roy and he is in the upper end of the all time greats, but the overrating of him tarnishes him. THe folks overrating him forgot he fought bums for the late 90s/early 2000s.

Tyson is just the most overrated boxer of the internet generation.

 

[Black_Jesus]

just when you think youve heard it all

Your a retard homie
I wont even address the floyd shyt u sayin
U lost all credibility with dat one

How can I lose credibility when the whole post was a hypothetical theory.. meaning its simply unprovable.. If you take away the weight difference, Prime Floyd vs Prime Mike is the hardest fight of both their careers.

 

[seemorecizzy]

How can I lose credibility when the whole post was a hypothetical theory.. meaning its simply unprovable.. If you take away the weight difference, Prime Floyd vs Prime Mike is the hardest fight of both their careers.

How could u take away the weight difference
Your theory is dumb
It doesnt make any sense
If a prime tyson fought roy jones at heavy weight
Roy would get knocked out in a round or 2
Not sure wtf u r talkin about
Stay on the floyd/roy topic
U gettin out of hand

 

[R=G]

Wow...damn..these little nyggas absolutely hate Roy Jones or just refuse to acknowledge how great he was during his run. Either way...they're ignorance is pathetic but considering they're just children pretending to boxing fans? That's no surprise.

 

[seemorecizzy]

Wow...damn..these little nyggas absolutely hate Roy Jones or just refuse to acknowledge how great he was during his run. Either way...they're ignorance is pathetic but considering they're just children pretending to boxing fans? That's no surprise.

We all love roy jones dogg
Some of u guys r just going too far
Next yall gonna be sayin he can whip ali

 

[R=G]

We know he can't whoop the greatest heavyweight boxer of all time but he can certainly outpoint anyone within 30 pounds of him during his prime thanks to his defensive abilities.

 

[Black Ball]

A prime Floyd vs a prime Roy... if Roy was somehow able to stay within 150-160 range

Since you want to over analyze my post.. obviously in their primes they would both be seasoned... but like I said, even if you take the weight difference away, Roy kills Floyd easily.. Roy would also give a prime Tyson the toughest fight of his career...
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Floyd would not know what to do against Roy's style, His defense came from his godly footwork.. Yes his D was better than Floyd's because of the footwork. No one even had a clue weather he had a weak chin or not until he finally slowed down.. Roy IMO was the better counter puncher as well, and was faster(not by much) and was more powerful... And lets not act like Roy's ring IQ wasn't on par with if not greater than Floyd..

My dude you saying some ridiculous shyt. A prime Tyson would kill Roy, and Tyson is one of the most overrated heavyweights ever. In Tyson's prime, he ways too athletic, quick, & explosive for Roy to keep him off him the whole fight. Roy wouldn't have had the power to keep Tyson honest. There is a reason they have weight classes breh.

About defense, what makes Floyd a better defensive fighter than Roy is his ability to stand in range of his opponent and constantly make him miss and execute offensive from his defense. If the primary goal is to run and not get hit, Floyd could do that just as well as Roy did by getting on his bycycle. Difference is Floyd is looking to be aggressive & execute on offense, where as Roy was mostly looking to eliminate all contact and strike when it was most safe to do so. He was so freaky athletically that he didn't need to always be in range to strike offensively, so I'm guessing this style suited Roy's saftey 1st mentality.

I'd say the same for Pernell who may be the greatest defensive fighter ever. You gonna tell me Roy is a better defender than Pernell? Pernell is standing right in front of his opponent and still making him miss, that's the type of ability that separates him from other great defensive fighters. Floyd has similar ability. Roy didn't show that as much.

 

[Black_Jesus]

I love Roy and he is in the upper end of the all time greats, but the overrating of him tarnishes him. THe folks overrating him forgot he fought bums for the late 90s/early 2000s.

Tyson is just the most overrated boxer of the internet generation.

How can prime Roy be overrated?? Tyson fought plenty of bums too, but unlike Floyd, Tyson and Jones never ducked anyone nor came up with endless excuses.. Its nit theie fault they made their opponents look like bums..There's nothing questionable about their legacies...They cleaned out their weight divisions until they finally slowed down and got beat.. They took on all challengers consistently.. They didn't retire twice and go on fake vacations like that bytch... How dare you call a fighter overrated that dominated their weight classes for 10 plus years.. Are you stupid??

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

If Gerald Mcclellan never got hurt he would've beat Roy

 

[R=G]

My dude you saying some ridiculous shyt. A prime Tyson would kill Roy, and Tyson is one of the most overrated heavyweights ever. In Tyson's prime, he ways too athletic, quick, & explosive for Roy to keep him off him the whole fight. Roy wouldn't have had the power to keep Tyson honest. There is a reason they have weight classes breh.

About defense, what makes Floyd a better defensive fighter than Roy is his ability to stand in range of his opponent and constantly make him miss and execute offensive from his defense. If the primary goal is to run and not get hit, Floyd could do that just as well as Roy did by getting on his bycycle. Difference is Floyd is looking to be aggressive & execute on offense, where as Roy was mostly looking to eliminate all contact and strike when it was most safe to do so. He was so freaky athletically that he didn't need to always be in range to strike offensively, so I'm guessing this style suited Roy's saftey 1st mentality.

I'd say the same for Pernell who may be the greatest defensive fighter ever. You gonna tell me Roy is a better defender than Pernell? Pernell is standing right in front of his opponent and still making him miss, that's the type of ability that separates him from other great defensive fighters. Floyd has similar ability. Roy didn't show that as much.

Roy Jones would of hit Pernell from 5 different angles. What's the matter with you?

 

[Black Ball]

Wow...damn..these little nyggas absolutely hate Roy Jones or just refuse to acknowledge how great he was during his run. Either way...they're ignorance is pathetic but considering they're just children pretending to boxing fans? That's no surprise.

Roy was my favorite fighter ever. Do you think Roy is the greatest fighter of alltime? If you don't, does that mean you hate him? If you don't and have to explain why another fighter is greater than Roy, does that mean you hate him?