so we gonna act like lebron didn't have to team up....

[EducatedBrothaFromTheBank]

Rodman didn't have two rings as a major contributor before joining the Bulls?

They made him?

Jordan won 3 rings without Rodman,

you coulda put Anderson Varejo or Reggie Evans there and nobody stoppin Jordan from 6 rings

 

[NYC Rebel]

Jordan won 3 rings without Rodman,

you coulda put Anderson Varejo or Reggie Evans there and nobody stoppin Jordan from 6 rings

You're not answering my question though.

Second...you couldn't. When Ho Grant left, the Bulls lost in the playoffs because they needed a volume rebounder and defender in the low blocks. Rodman was needed.....and wasn't "made" by MJ.

Yall niqqas are ass backwards.

 

[FTBS]

MJ was ringless until he got a Hall Of Fame coach and a Hall of Fame second option

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Same can be said for almost every ATG with a ring. The ones with 3+ all had both of those. Thats why this topic is so silly and had been silly for the last three years. nikkas literally acting like the leagues history didnt happen. Its amazing what a little can do.

 

[EducatedBrothaFromTheBank]

You're not answering my question though.

Second...you couldn't. When Ho Grant left, the Bulls lost in the playoffs because they needed a volume rebounder and defender in the low blocks. Rodman was needed.....and wasn't "made" by MJ.

Yall niqqas are ass backwards.

so Rodman was the key to Jordan's illustrious career now?

 

[smitty22]

rodman was a beast on offense




allen, chalmers




kobe still gets doubled consistently, you cant double lebron because of wade and bosh its that simple

You can't double Lebron cause he the best passer in the game. Kobe 8 turnovers last night is a example of why u can double him.

 

[ghostwriterx]

the subject is touchy, because those debating wont allow the argument to have a middle ground.

i in no way am saying pippen was a scrub. what i was pointing out was on the premises of what the thread starter said, jordan did not have a team that kept him from being doubled teamed. rodman was no scoring threat. teams laid off him all the time. pippen was not dynamic enough of a scorer to bring all the attention of the defense on him enough to keep jordan from a double team. jordan still dealt with many nights of teams doubling him. this is not calling pippen a scrub, this is just a fact. if you watch many of the older bulls games jordan still dealt with heavy double teams on most nights. it was only a few teams like the knicks, heat who would go man to man and not send the double cause they really feared the open shooters like bj, hodges, paxson, then later kerr, buchler, kukoc. but it was no other player on those bulls squads that commanded a double every night, enough to keep mj single covered.

and none of what im saying is to totally agree with the premises of what the op is saying, but when this argument is made, many people keep bringing up pippen and rodman, and act like it still wasnt many of nights jordan had to go complete ham to get wins.

2008-2009
Cleveland 66-16 lost in ECF
Lebron 28.4ppg 7.6rb 7.2 ast1.7st 1blk 49%fg

Rest of starting lineup Mo Williams, Big Z, Delonte West, Sideshow Bob/Ben Wallace (Combined shooting-47%)

2000-2007
Cleveland 50-32 lost in Finals
Lebron 27.3ppg 6.6rb 6asst 1.6st .7blk 48%fg

Rest of starting lineup Larry Hughes, Big Z, Drew Gooden, Eric Snow/Sasha Pavlovic (Combined shooting- 44%)

1995-1996
Bulls 72-10 won title
MJ 30.4ppg 6.6rb 4.3ast 2.2st .5blk 49%fg

Rest of starting lineup Pippen, Longley, Harper, Rodman, Wennington/Kukoc 3653 (Combined shooting-47%)


1992-1993
Bulls 57-25 won title
Jordan 32.6ppg 6.7rb 5.5 ast 2.8stl .8blk
Rest of starting lineup Pippen, Grant, BJ, Cartwright (combined shooting-48%)

Pippen, Grant, Kukoc and even BJ were better offensively than everybody Bron played w/before Miami.

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

so Rodman was the key to Jordan's illustrious career now?

He wasnt the key to Jordan's career but he was a vital part to MJ's second 3 peat

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[FreddyCalhoun]

3 HALL OF FAMERS....

3 MORE FUTURE HALL OF FAMERS

2 HALL OF FAME

You don't win titles without extaordinary talent....

 

[Constellations]

I dapped this, but it should also be noted that one of these pictures is not like the others. And to help you out, its not the Celtics.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

You're not answering my question though.

Second...you couldn't. When Ho Grant left, the Bulls lost in the playoffs because they needed a volume rebounder and defender in the low blocks. Rodman was needed.....and wasn't "made" by MJ.

Yall niqqas are ass backwards.

He was the reason that the Magic knocked the Bulls off in the 95 ECF..

Phil was like "We're gonna make Horace beat us"

and he basically did with that wet jumper from the top of the key.

 

[mastermind]

its not

 

[TheNig]

you dont win without some good ass help. its not a surpised LeBron couldnt win with Larry Hughes as the 2nd highest scorer on the Cavs back in 2007.

 

[Heelmatic]

This argument is so stupid. Anyone wanna name a team that won it all, that didn't have at least 2 HOFers on the team?

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

Nikkas are getting scared, now all of sudden It's plausible(look it up c00ns) Lebron gonna be the GOAT.

Six-time NBA champion (1991-93, 1996-98);
MVP (1988, '91, '92, '96, '98);
10-time All-NBA First Team (1987-93, 1996-98);
All-NBA Second Team (1985);
Defensive Player of the Year (1988);
Nine-time All-Defensive First Team (1988-93, 1996-98);
Rookie of the Year (1985);
14-time All-Star; All-Star MVP (1988, '96, '98)
Olympic gold medalist (84,92)
6 Finals MVP

 

[Malik]

so Rodman was the key to Jordan's illustrious career now?

That's not what he's saying breh

You nikkas really think its just Jordan, Kobe & LeBron out there