So..What are y'all actually giving Triple H credit for?

[trick]

Other than what's been mentioned, he was behind moving developmental to a studio in front of a much livelier crowd and NXT is a lot more entertaining than FCW used to be. Cesaro is the only guy he's signed that's really panned out so far.

I still think they should bring back Kong. I'm still not sure why they even let her go, they should've just let her get back into ring shape and put her in a program with AJ or Naomi right away. Isn't she working in the indies right now?

The tag division has been dead for months. They got some good teams (PTP, Shield, Sandow/Rhodes) but they're not doing anything with these guys aside from the Shield. Then they end up jobbing all the tag team guys as fodder to Ryback, Swagger, Brodus Clay, etc. Gotta see what they'll do after they split D-Bry and Kane.

 

[The Great One]

Wasn't he one of the main guys behind pushing Shield? Honestly asking this, can't remember tbh.

Still, the only thing we can really judge him is developmental and talent because those are the things we are sure he's the main guy taking decisions.

The Hero interest and problems with his signing were when Triple H was already in charge of developmental IIRC.

Claudio having visa issues was bullshyt breh. He even said so at the time and he had no trouble working in the US after being let go by Johnny Ace.

He also signed PAC, arguably the best spot monkey in the world not named Kota Ibushi.

He made Sara del Rey the head trainer for the divas. A division I have zero interest in and that I highly doubt will ever be anything more than 5 minute eye candy matches. But he made arguably the best women wrestler in the world in charge of developing the division. Can't be mad at that.

I can't give him much blame for Kong and Mistico. He signed them and gave them a huge opportunity. Them flopping was way more on them fukking up than HHH. He made sure to sign one of the best and unique women wrestlers in the business and got the biggest non WWE star in the planet.

Revamped and changed NXT to something worth a damn.


I'm FAR from a HHH fan, but ever since he's been more involved in talent relations and developmental I'm reading way more encouraging news than when Ace was in charge

Point by Point:

Shield thing, never have heard of it, but maybe?

Claudio was signed in 2006, but was let go very quickly, Meltzer said it was visa issues, but if you are saying it wasn't, and Claudio says it wasn't, something must have happened and one of us has the wrong information. Vince has been a longstanding fan of Claudio though, heard this for years.

PAC is great, forgot about him, if that was Triple H's doing then awesome. But him and Shawn have always hated spot monkeys, so ?

Sara Del Ray was hired to keep Claudio happy (she is his girl), but if does something, then great for her and us. 8 months in, and so far, nothing. Like less than nothing. Worst women's division in the history of WWE currently and by FAR. Alundra Blaze and Bull Nakano >>>>>

I still say NOTHING has changed in NXT. What has changed? That they tape at Full Sail? That was a positive move, but what has it produced? They had a TV show before in Florida.

King Paul got the Kliq haters mad today. Dude couldn't even post in the original thread, he had to make a whole new thread.

Not mad at all and you coming in here and trolling adding nothing to the conversation is

 

[trick]

Sara Del Ray was hired to keep Claudio happy (she is his girl), but if does something, then great for her and us. 8 months in, and so far, nothing. Like less than nothing. Worst women's division in the history of WWE currently and by FAR. Alundra Blaze and Bull Nakano >>>>>

She's the trainer there for the girls. I doubt she'll ever be on the roster. She doesn't have big t*ts, and she's not really good looking either.

 

[The Great One]

She's the trainer there for the girls. I doubt she'll ever be on the roster. She doesn't have big t*ts, and she's not really good looking either.

I know that lol. I'm just saying, what change has their been in the positive for the Women's division? It has gotten MUCH worse.

Women's division is still stale. Kharma flopped, but maybe that wasn't anybody's fault. Still, Beth pushed out the door and Nattie and Naomi reduced to backup dancers. Eve Whorres kinda retired.

on top of that, majority of this forum is absolutely crapping on Wrestlemania.

I mean bytches have always left. They come and go. But the point is to reload and refocus. They did nothing but half-push Tamina and then quickly dropped it.

 

[Tide Run This]

Sin Cara and Kharma

 

[StatUS]

TSC has such good-willed forgiving souls that they are willing to give credit to TrasHHH for what is really just nothing more than an above standards job since his push as the number one guy turned millions of viewers away from the product.

You guys are such amazing people for that

 

[Jmare007]

Claudio was signed in 2006, but was let go very quickly, Meltzer said it was visa issues, but if you are saying it wasn't, and Claudio says it wasn't, something must have happened and one of us has the wrong information. Vince has been a longstanding fan of Claudio though, heard this for years.

WWE's reason to let him go were visa issues. But Claudio had a green card and had no problem working in the States. That's why he has able to work the indy circuit with no problem after being let go from the E'.

Reports at the time:

PWInsider.com:

Claudio Castagnoli issued the following statement via his MySpace.com page today:

Ladies and Gentlemen this is an official statement issued by one Castagnoli Claudio.

There have been rumors about my status as a US resident, my visa, work visa and so forth.

Those rumors are FALSE.

These rumors hurt me, my integrity and my status in this country and business.

I’m a man of honor, pride and integrity.

I do have a green card or permanent resident card if you will and also do have a social security number. In case you don’t know, you need both of these in order to be and work in this country legally.

So before so called “News Sites” and “Newsletters” release heavy statements or rumors like that, they should really do their job. It’s called research.

Let me close by saying there was and is nothing wrong with my visa or residential status.

Sincerely,

Castagnoli, Claudio

Castagnoli responded to a number of stories that have circulated about his status in the United States after his expected signing with World Wrestling Entertainment for a developmental deal was delayed.

WON:

Claudio Castagnoli was apparently in the USA on a tourist visa rather than a working visa and WWE signed him before finding out. Mike Bucci is getting the blame for this and John Laurinaitis scrubbed Castagnoli’s developmental deal because getting him the working visa would have cost thousands of dollars, which he doesn’t feel Castagnoli is worth. There is also a lot of heat on Castagnoli for not telling them about it up front, although Gabe Sapolsky of ROH has said Castagnoli has a green card so none of this should be a problem.

They dropped the ball with him but honestly it was for the better as he improved a shyt ton in the 4-5 years he worked indys-overseas.

 

[Reality Check]

Considering the years of animosity, getting Bruno Sanmartino back involved with the WWE is a huge deal. That was all HHH.

 

[Jmare007]

TSC has such good-willed forgiving souls that they are willing to give credit to TrasHHH for what is really just nothing more than an above standards job

His current role is very important and doing an above average job is WAY better than what Laurinaitis did. That's why he is getting praised.

 

[Nintendough]

Not mad at all and you coming in here and trolling adding nothing to the conversation is

He is helping with the quality of in ring talent, developmental is looking legit and even though the tag division isn't where it needs to be yet(most likely due to vince) at least he shows an interest in it about it unlike cokeboy. He actually cares about wrestling and not just fukkery. What more do you want from Sultan Paul?

 

[The Great One]

WWE's reason to let him go were visa issues. But Claudio had a green card and had no problem working in the States. That's why he has able to work the indy circuit with no problem after being let go from the

They dropped the ball with him but honestly it was for the better as he improved a shyt ton in the 4-5 years he worked indys-overseas.

I believe WON over any of the others and it would make sense. Why would they sign him and then immediately "scrub" his deal?

And if he had a tourist visa and not a working one, it can expire or if he has a working one, it can expire and they have to pull him and then they would be working with an illegal immigrant lol.

And if you think it can't happen, it did, to TNA and Angelina Love.

in a move that will probably take most fans of the company by surprise, former TNA Knockouts champion Angelina Love of the Beautiful People was released late yesterday by the company.

According to numerous sources within the company, there was some sort of issue with Love's work visa (she's Canadian) expiring and not being renewed as needed.

Love, who worked for TNA as recently as the Impact tapings this past Monday and Tuesday, had been working on a work visa originally granted to her from when she was under a WWE developmental deal. The existing visa has either expired or will expire shortly.

One TNA source referred to it as the company's "hands being tied" since they can't use legally Love if she doesn't have her paperwork in order. There was a lot of unhappiness within the company regarding the entire situation going down, although it seemed to be more disappointment as opposed to heat on Love.

My guess is that TNA would bring her back if and when she can get her paperwork in order, although the release would conceivably leave her available to sign with WWE and work there (pending a new work visa).

Love and Velvet Sky, as the Beautiful People, had been the top heel act for the TNA Knockouts division and were scheduled to be involved in an important bout on the No Surrender PPV on 9/22.

There's no word yet as to how Love will be written out of TNA storylines at this time.

Either way, he can't be credited to Triple H to me.

Considering the years of animosity, getting Bruno Sanmartino back involved with the WWE is a huge deal. That was all HHH.

Yup, good point.

His current role is very important and doing an above average job is WAY better than what Laurinaitis did. That's why he is getting praised.

Him and Laurinitis have had WAY different job responsibilities. It's not even close lol. John had zero input in storylines and who go pushed who didn't.

 

[StatUS]

His current role is very important and doing an above average job is WAY better than what Laurinaitis did. That's why he is getting praised.

Big Johnny was literally the worst of all-time. I've never heard a good word on him. Add the Steph booking combo and, well we know the deal.

HHH is better but at the end of the day I can't trust him in the long run. The day I'm proven wrong would be awesome though.

 

[I-Hate-You]

Considering the years of animosity, getting Bruno Sanmartino back involved with the WWE is a huge deal. That was all HHH.

fair point.

 

[Jmare007]

I believe WON over any of the others and it would make sense. Why would they sign him and then immediately "scrub" his deal?

And if he had a touring visa and not a working one, it can expire or if he has a working one, it can expire and they have to pull him and then they would be working with an illegal immigrant lol.

So you believe WON over Claudio's word?

Him and Laurinitis have had WAY different job responsibilities. It's not even close lol. John had zero input in storylines and who go pushed who didn't.

I'm only talking about talent relations and developmental. The fact that HHH is doing a good job is way better than Laurinitis ever did and that's why he gets praised. I agree that the praise might be overreacting but I still take that over more Johnny Ace in charge.

 

[The Great One]

So you believe WON over Claudio's word?
I'm only talking about talent relations and developmental. The fact that HHH is doing a good job is way better than Laurinitis ever did and that's why he gets praised. I agree that the praise might be overreacting but I still take that over more Johnny Ace in charge.

Yeah I do, that report, if true, made him look incredibly bad to everyone, and maybe no one would use him in the US after that.

Fine, talent and developmental were way over Johnny Ace. But everyone hated Laurinitis and he was the worst ever, so you only have up to go. He is definitely doing better than Laurinitis.