So what exactly is that whole "I never heard him get played in the hood" arguement supposed to mean?

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Most the type people who use that argument are the types who never left their city for more than a day and think the hood is the whole world. I

Like a rapper cares wether the hood is bumping his shyt or not when he can still sell out shows in his city, has a global fan bases & sell 100k+.

All that "the hood ain't bumping your shyt" in reality doesn't matter to a rappers success.
You really have no idea what you're talking about, due to a number of factors which I won't go into yet. But many great artists have deeply cared if the hood or people from the streets or poor communities fukk with their music, these artists include Scarface, Bob Marley, 2 Pac and many others, this was very important to them that they reached the people.
 

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Taylor Swift is not on Urban Radio now is she?

I've heard Justin Bieber being played in the middle of ENY just two weeks ago :heh:

Because he gets play on 105 and hot97 now which are the two urban HipHop&RNB stations in the city. Like I said, being a pop star is a part of it.

And no, You said you've NEVER in your life heard anyone playing Jay-Z or Nas in your hood. Like ever. I'd argue that you're not from the hood then. I don't know anyone who's from any hood that's NEVER heard anyone play Jay or Nas. Especially Jay

It sounds impossible.
Ask anybody where I'm from they top 10.
And neither of them would be on it.
Mac Dre, The Jacka, Andre Nicketina and Brotha Lynch would be tho.
 

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Ask anybody where I'm from they top 10.
And neither of them would be on it.
Mac Dre, The Jacka, Andre Nicketina and Brotha Lynch would be tho.
Funny, I never asked about your opinion or music, or about the preferences that people where you're from have towards music or who's in their top 10.

I couldn't give a fukk. And if Nas or Jay isn't in anyone's top 10, then they're opinion on Hip Hop is irrelevant and they should be treated as such.

Also, I just said that if you've never heard Jay or Nas being played in your hood ever, no matter your hood, then you might not be from the hood.

I'm an East Coast nikka and have heard Cube, Snoop, Too Short etc being played more
Than a couple of times.
 

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You really have no idea what you're talking about, due to a number of factors which I won't go into yet. But many great artists have deeply cared if the hood or people from the streets or poor communities fukk with their music, these artists include Scarface, Bob Marley, 2 Pac and many others, this was very important to them that they reached the people.
Weird, I figured she'd know better than to say some dumb shyt like that. She's proven to be pretty informed about the black experience in some cases, in a lot of cases actually.

Seeing her type some dumb shyt like that is legitimately surprising to me.
 

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the hood doesnt determine whats hot anymore, the internet nerds do now

if you nikkas want that to change then tell the hood to support their artists and stop holding their hands out waiting for free datpiff tapes

thats way easier said than done though. but its not impossible. the mindset of the "hood" in terms of supporting their artists needs to be quarantined
 

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Funny, I never asked about your opinion or music, or about the preferences that people where you're from have towards music or who's in their top 10.

I couldn't give a fukk. And if Nas or Jay isn't in anyone's top 10, then they're opinion on Hip Hop is irrelevant and they should be treated as such.

Also, I just said that if you've never heard Jay or Nas being played in your hood ever, no matter your hood, then you might not be from the hood.

I'm an East Coast nikka and have heard Cube, Snoop, Too Short etc being played more
Than a couple of times.
My point is that arguement is invalid because I can use any artist that gets love in a hood that's not my own and say because I Ain't never heard them get played they don't matter. :francis:

I've heard Biggie,get played where I'm from, but because I've never heard Jay-Z now I could say he don't matter because he don't get play in my hood :francis:

So if Jay-Z don't get play in my hood, I'm not from the hood.
Well can't I say if Mac Dre don't get played in your hood, you not really from the hood? :francis:
 
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the hood doesnt determine whats hot anymore, the internet nerds do now

if you nikkas want that to change then tell the hood to support their artists and stop holding their hands out waiting for free datpiff tapes

thats way easier said than done though. but its not impossible. the mindset of the "hood" in terms of supporting their artists needs to be quarantined
The hood doesn't determine what's hot, because we live in a connected world. The hood determines whats actually good though. Regardless if it blows up or not.

Most of the underground nikkas you here are local nikkas buzzin round their hoods before the Internet nerds even catch on. Internet nerds supply cosigns to their nerd followers. Giving them the okay to listen. To make them more well known.

The actual quality of the music though? Is determined by the streets. To this day.

And futures recent surge is pure proof of that. Like pure proof that it's still alive.

Because when they tried to get him to cater to that audience he got lukewarm. Went back to the streets, and he got the hood around him again, which then turned into the Internet nerds catching on. EVENTUALLY.

The hood is still powerful. They'll let you know what's up. Well before the Internet nerds do.

You don't find gems (artists) through the Internet nerds. You find gems through word of mouth.
 
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You really have no idea what you're talking about, due to a number of factors which I won't go into yet. But many great artists have deeply cared if the hood or people from the streets or poor communities fukk with their music, these artists include Scarface, Bob Marley, 2 Pac and many others, this was very important to them that they reached the people.

I get it. I don't not get it.. I don't need you to explain it to me. I just think most the time people who use that argument do so in a real corn ball way.

Of course the hood being receptive matters, that's the birth place of hip hop. but not every corner dudes musical play list matters like that. So say a Troy ave (who's from the hood) ain't feelin a backpack rapper and bumping their shyt, there's gonna be at least someone else in the hood, who isn't a street dude that does. Just because a group of people live in the hood doesn't make them a monoloth. And just because so and so isn't bumping out someone's whip doesn't mean they aren't getting listens. Music is personal to a lot of people. So Just because I listen to so and so in my whip don't mean I'm not listening to so and so in my headphones.

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Black people doing black music thats created from the hood should be played in the hood. It is what it is. It means something. Jay the most overrated rapper of all time but I'm not go act like he didn't get played in the hood for years, everybody didn't like his character but he was played. He 50 years old so not getting played like that now is to be expected
 
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I get it. I don't not get it.. I don't need you to explain it to me. I just think most the time people who use that argument do so in a real corn ball way.

Of course the hood being receptive matters, that's the birth place of hip hop. but not every corner dudes musical play list matters like that. So say a Troy ave (who's from the hood) ain't feelin a backpack rapper and bumping their shyt, there's gonna at least someone else in the hood, who isn't a street dude that does. Just because a group of people live in the hood doesn't make them a monoloth.

@The II XX
I think you're misunderstanding me a bit. I'm not saying that because someone doesn't get play in the hood means theyre lame. I'm saying that 9/10 the hood will tell you if something is boomin. And it's just because of the lifestyle difference that comes with it. It's hard to explain, and you'd have to be from it to understand it

It's not only about what you hear out of speakers. It's the conversations at the corner store, it's the convos on the block where no music is playing
But someone is trying to convince you to listen to it.

When someone says "the hood" they don't literally look at it like its one organism, but there is a collective opinion and vibe that travels in hoods.

Example: I heard So Far Gone played way more in the Hood then I heard Thank Me Later, despite Drake being bigger during his Thank Me Later run

Same way I heard more GKMC being played than I did TPAB despite Kendrick being bigger now then he was in 2012.

It's weird like that but that's the difference between the GP and the Hood. In the hood it's not always about what's hot, it's about what fits.

I hate to keep bringing up Future but it's a perfect example of how the streets dictate what's great, Internet nerds hashtag it, then white people latch on. It's a never ending cycle. But it's been proven time and time again.

Hood = Vibes, Words Of Mouth, Sounds
GP= What's Hot, what everyone else is listening too. Hashtags.

You need both. But if you were going to take a sample anywhere, a trial run or something? Hood should be first. People who don't have shyt might just appreciate those vibes more and are looking for an Escape.

GP just wants to be down and ride the wave.

Best to use the hood to actually find your sound and use the GP to cash out.

GP doesn't give a damn about anything other than what other people are listening to. The streets will actually let you know what's poppin and what's trash.



And I see your point as well.
 

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"The Hood" does not mean the slums where the goons at...& it also doesnt mean it has to be music FOR goons in the slums...

....like for example when people say Future got the STREETS... they mean.. wherever you go, the music is ringing off.. the morning commute, the gas station, the highway, the functions, everyones aux cord.. you can see the music resonating organically with the people so three #1 albums in 7 months isn't a surprise, whether you're a fan or not... you could FEEL the buzz... alot of great artists have been able to grab the masses in that fashion... alot of artists have also flourished without necessarily getting their product poppin thru that route.. its different markets for different music... some dudes gotta fly across the pond to the UK to eat cause their albums are weed plates in the US... but dont try to dismiss the impact, importance and advantage of having the streets behind you...




































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