So what exactly is that whole "I never heard him get played in the hood" arguement supposed to mean?

[Checkgamematch]

So we want to pretend K rino can't out-rap Jay Z.

 

[Knicksman20]

the hood doesnt determine whats hot anymore, the internet nerds do now

if you nikkas want that to change then tell the hood to support their artists and stop holding their hands out waiting for free datpiff tapes

thats way easier said than done though. but its not impossible. the mindset of the "hood" in terms of supporting their artists needs to be quarantined

Exactly; especially the bolded

 

[hex]

No really disagree. "i never hear dude in the streets" has a lot to do with whether a rapper's success is organic and authentic or not. Let's remember how rappers used to pop. They usually had to be poppin in their own neighborhoods first and word of mouth would get into the right people's ears and then they would get put on. These days with the internet that process is still relevant. You put your songs on the internet but you need friends and ppl to share it before it gets noticed.

If the club is playing your record over and over, its because the people want to hear it Say all you want about payola and the radio but at the end of the day, radio has to play what ppl want to hear. Once the budget runs out, ppl still need to request the record or shyt getting dropped from the playlist.

Having your songs buzz in the streets means a lot if you care about the culture. if your songs are impacting lingo, your verses being quoted/referenced all the time - that is a sign of ppl really fukkin wit you.

I went over that in the second part of my post breh. But today isn't remotely similar to back in the day. Nowadays somebody could completely circumvent "the street" with a hit record off Youtube.

And no....radio doesn't necessarily play what people want to hear. There's a Clear Channel program called On The Verge specifically for spinning songs until they catch on. I spoke on this before but it turned "Fancy" from a flop into a hit.

Fred.

 

[Farrinto]

So we want to pretend K rino can't out-rap Jay Z.

It's neg on sight now FOH with that bullshyt

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Most the type people who use that argument are the types who never left their city for more than a day and think the hood is the whole world. I

Like a rapper cares wether the hood is bumping his shyt or not when he can still sell out shows in his city, has a global fan bases & sell 100k+.

All that "the hood ain't bumping your shyt" in reality doesn't matter to a rappers success.

I disagree. Unless, a rapper is a total sellout, it would burn a rapper up inside if his hood/hood's in their state didn't show some type of appreciation to their music. Obviously since HipHop is very regional, you can't be worrying about EVERY HOOD feeling your music but the hood you come from and surrounding areas should feel it.

 

[Uncle Kendrick]

I would say the radio is more of an indicator of what's popular very rarely does the hood dictates what's hot.

Obviously, you do have exceptions for example Bobby shmurda hot nikka was a street record that turned into a popular hit nationwide.

 

[Wild self]

thots control music now

, and "the streets" let drunken thots dictate the direction of a masculine art form now.

 

[southpawstyle]

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"Has several albums, but none on a major label or notable indy"
"The must come a point where an artist is notable no matter what label he's on. "
"The point is that there is no third party coverage on this artist because he is not a "prominent" musician of any sort"
"it does not matter how many albums this person has released if no one is buying them."

THIS IS REAL?!

 

[Wacky D]

Well that's you feeding into the stereotype. Look at what you said, "Nas, Prodify, Rakim etc weren't your typical dude in the hood" and I'd argue that they were. There are plenty of intellectuals living in the hood. Plenty of great writers, producers, poets. Scholars. I've lived in Hoods all over my city, and the views we have on it are different because you're not from it. Truth is, the only things that separate Nas' Rakim's etc, is the vision not just the talent. But perseverance. The will. It has nothing to do with how educated they are, because Nas made illmatic as a Jr high school drop out. So to the naked eye, had he not made it, he'd be a "typical hood dude" which is what? A slanging, drop out who's never going to be anything. But we know him now as the legend because he did what he was capable of doing. There are plenty of high level creatives in the hood, there's just so much to balance that most people never reach their potential. I've met smarter people, more cultured, more worldly people in my old hoods than I've met in great neighborhoods.

Also, we don't consider the streets to include the working class, or middle class. When we say streets, we mean the hood. Poverty. Low income. Welfare. Section 8. Food Stamps etc. That's some new shyt that people try to push that the "streets" just mean the city. I know plenty of plenty in my city of all races who at the thought of some neighborhoods, because they're too hood. I think Hip Hop is at a point where there are so many people chiming in who are uninformed, and these opinions are respected even though they aren't backed by much fact.

great post.

but it was never all about the slums. if it was, then yall wouldnt be in here mentioning rakim. we wouldnt even have this thread because there would be no run dmc. we wouldnt have epmd, and a chitload of others. the list goes on.

people just say city because the city tends to be majority black. and the working class & middle class are vague terms concerning black people. and most working/middle class black neighborhoods are a mixed bag. you can go thru a string of peachy blocks, and then suddenly turn the wrong corner and it looks like a danger zone. or you can be pretty well-off, but the family next door is poor.

I don't think people realize west coast don't fukk with them like that.

Buy their cd and the whole hood fux with it ? Maybe a random cousin that got put on by his sisters boyfriend she met in college.

Nah but on some real shyt, I ain't never heard jay z or Nas be played in the hood. In fact I'm the only nas fan I know really.

If we talking about certified hits,I think thats hard to fight.

Maybe our fux with it has two different meanings.

its sounds like what youre trying to say is that theyre drake status out there.

where youll hear the radio hits get bumped but not so much the albums/mixtapes.

is that correct?