So What Exactly is Wrong with "Social Justice"?

[Maschine_Man]

Are you wiling to say this paragraph below is telling lies?

I'm willing to 100% say that we do not live in a rape culture regardless of what a very small segment of the population does or believes.

 

[Pazzy]

It's not actually about the disadvantaged group though. It's about how society encourages a group to feel their desires supersedes the rights of the individual and then double down once they've been called out.

I've given you a few examples and you haven't addressed any of them.

Can you do that?

Dude, don't even go there when you basically don't even know what rape culture is yourself where you copy and pasted that shyt word to word and came up with examples that have nothing to do with "rape culture". What "Rape Culture" Really Means

My point is as it stands. To say "rape culture" exist literally excuses the act of rape, rapists, and the seriousness of it. Might as well say there's a homicide culture and that's the reason why places like Baltimore has a lot of murders. You don't know what you're talking about. Last time I checked, rape was a criminal act and it was illegal.

I do think that certain issues aren't being handled properly because there's some righteous motherfukkers trying to step into realms they don't know of or have no business stepping into. They also don't see how problematic they are being by coming up with bandaids for issues that are a lot deeper than that. The rape culture theory doesn't explain shyt. rape is an act of hurting someone making them powerless through sex and being predatory. Some people unfortunately are wired that way where they have something psychologically wrong with them where they basically are sexual predators. I doubt that "rape culture" creates rapists. Chances is someone who is a rapist is already fukked up from the jump and would be doing the same shyt regardless of where they are at. Sexual predators are basically the hardest offenders to rehabilitate where they are likely to reoffend. They have something wrong with them. Pushing "rape culture" theory into society is not going to stop rapes from happening. Rape culture comes from a sociological perspective which is ignoring the criminal justice, psychological, physiological perspective of the act.

And on top of all that, how rape and sexual assault is viewed by others also matters where rape culture basically makes rape and sexual assault into a broad and vague term where it blurs the lines. It's to the point where someone just looking at a woman with a smile or saying good morning just to be friendly could be "catcalling" as catcalling which not too long ago was being treated as rape or sexual assault. The idea that anytime a man interacts with a woman, he wants to have sex with her or some paranoia shyt. We all know that's not true. It just freefalls to the point where we aren't even addressing the problem.

I'm all for women's rights and against misogyny but I do agree that some of these feminists want more than that to the point where they want power to the point where folks can't even do anything or it harms people.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm willing to 100% say that we do not live in a rape culture regardless of what a very small segment of the population does or believes.

Rape culture is not a benchmark, its a description of attitudes.

Dumbass.

 

[Snoopy Loops]

I'm willing to 100% say that we do not live in a rape culture regardless of what a very small segment of the population does or believes.

So you are isolating certain very specific ppl and demographics and using them to try and prove a point about all of society....which is false.

Rape culture isn't normalized in our society. No one thinks rape is acceptable in any way. Nor do they think that any similar behavior is ok.

All of society isn't judged off of what may or may not happen in a frat house or in a basketball locker room.

It's when ppl make these sweeping generalizations that gets us nowhere.

Culture means that something is universally accepted by the population.

Saying we have a rape culture because a very very very small percentage of ppl think it's ok is just a lie. And anyone perpetuating that lie, even to appear any type of way is just a spineless fakkit.

Lol.... Your defense of all this comes off as though your guilty conscience is being triggered. There are probably some feminists (extremists) that believe it pervades the whole society, however I would hope that most moderates acknowledge that all males are not complicit. And shidd, why so defensive about it? Feminists ain't employing state apparatus in this their so called war. Your advocacy would be better served for seeking justice for those falsely accused of rape and their subsequent ostracization

 

[Maschine_Man]

Lol.... Your defense of all this comes off as though your guilty conscience is being triggered. There are probably some feminists (extremists) that believe it pervades the whole society, however I would hope that most moderates acknowledge that all males are not complicit. And shidd, why so defensive about it? Feminists ain't employing state apparatus in this their so called war. Your advocacy would be better served for seeking justice for those falsely accused of rape and their subsequent ostracization

What the fukk are you talking about?
Defensive?

You dudes stay projecting.

 

[Snoopy Loops]

What the fukk are you talking about?
Defensive?

You dudes stay projecting.

Seems like there's no coming to a consensus with you.

 

[88m3]

Lol.... Your defense of all this comes off as though your guilty conscience is being triggered. There are probably some feminists (extremists) that believe it pervades the whole society, however I would hope that most moderates acknowledge that all males are not complicit. And shidd, why so defensive about it? Feminists ain't employing state apparatus in this their so called war. Your advocacy would be better served for seeking justice for those falsely accused of rape and their subsequent ostracization

I have whoever you're arguing with on ignore but they probably have an irrational hatred of women. They don't want to actually solve issues they just want to prop themselves as if they're better than anyone else and the feeling they get from hatred.

Very sad

 

[Pazzy]

So you are isolating certain very specific ppl and demographics and using them to try and prove a point about all of society....which is false.

Rape culture isn't normalized in our society. No one thinks rape is acceptable in any way. Nor do they think that any similar behavior is ok.

All of society isn't judged off of what may or may not happen in a frat house or in a basketball locker room.

It's when ppl make these sweeping generalizations that gets us nowhere.

Culture means that something is universally accepted by the population.

Saying we have a rape culture because a very very very small percentage of ppl think it's ok is just a lie. And anyone perpetuating that lie, even to appear any type of way is just a spineless fakkit.

I don't even know why you're arguing with these guys because they clearly aren't interested in what you're saying and are ready to accuse you of being misogynistic for not being a sheep when you clearly aren't. I haven't seen any of these guys challenge what you're saying yet such as rape never being culturally acceptable and folks generalizing all men based off of what some men do.

 

[Tom Foolery]

it's generally the normalizing of behavior of sexual assault or abuse. It often comes across through statements that reinforce or actions that are based around the concept of being owed sex or control over women's bodies.

This isn't limited to, but includes throwing parties with the intention of getting women drunk for sex, attempting to shame them into group sex, trains, violating the trust of pictures or video that should remain private, shaming to cover up said actions, etc.

A typical response to what I just posted that further reinforces rape culture will be something along the lines of, "well she shouldn't have recorded a video if you didn't want anyone to see it." "No one forced her in a gang bang. She should have fought harder." or other victim shaming comments.

Spoiler

will pink Freud give up his no mention me proclamation in order to respond? Stay tuned coli brehs.

One thing I don't get. Why would you (or SJW's) fight against rape culture but not against slut/whore culture?

 

[Kenny West]

You're just such a dishonest shyt poster who's perfected the art of saying a lot but saying nothing.

Admission of defeat .

Caught you in a lie then you call me dishonest, that's rich.

Come on my fellow black brother, I'm the liar? No need to project. It's just that being subtle isn't your strong suit. Whether it's posting white supremacist musings or trying to lead me around by the nose. You just can't pull it off without being too obvious.

Another one

it's generally the normalizing of behavior of sexual assault or abuse. It often comes across through statements that reinforce or actions that are based around the concept of being owed sex or control over women's bodies.

Another term where the definition is linguistically nice but falls apart once unpacked.

This isn't limited to, but includes throwing parties with the intention of getting women drunk for sex, attempting to shame them into group sex, trains, violating the trust of pictures or video that should remain private, shaming to cover up said actions, etc.

None of the bold aligns with rape...The underline doesn't even imply culture.

I mean look at the first example, it's rape culture to throw your own party for the hopes of drunk sex but it's not rape for business establishments to create that environment? (bars clubs and lounges for easy drunk sex)

Most "rape culture" literature I've read exaggerates aspects of hookup culture to wage a crusade against college fraternity environments. Most of the things listed are scumbag dirty mack tactics which reflects on individual mentality but not indicative of any "culture". A culture has to be cultivated, affirmed an practiced on a large scale for it to be such. Men are not out here raping women to continue a time honored tradition of sexual assault. How can you consider something a process of "normalization" if practicing it ends with you in jail? How can it be normalization if sexual assault accusations damage reputations? That doesn't sound like positive reinforcement to me.

I really can't respect such a liberal use of the term rape. We're really calling a person trying to shame someone into acting the way they want "rape"?


tl;dr Another intellectually dishonest term that people repeat but have never really sat down and thought about

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I have whoever you're arguing with on ignore but they probably have an irrational hatred of women. They don't want to actually solve issues they just want to prop themselves as if they're better than anyone else and the feeling they get from hatred.

Very sad

@Pink_Cuck
@PINK_FRAUD

 

[88m3]

@Pink_Cuck
@PINK_FRAUD

The white Canadian conservative kid?

 

[Kenny West]

Rape culture is not a benchmark, its a description of attitudes.

Dumbass.

So this description is objective in your mind? Or is it a term for someone's perception of attitudes? aka "acting like this/doing this MAY facilitate or create rape in the future [TO ME]"

From the outside looking in, a white person could consider people going to a future concert a celebration of "drug/thug culture" as simply a description of attitude.

What gives someone's description validity to you to the extent that you parade around someone elses perceptions/descriptions as fact?

 

[Scholar]

One thing I don't get. Why would you (or SJW's) fight against rape culture but not against slut/whore culture?

If you could, please define "slut/whore culture"

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

So this description is objective in your mind?

Who cares?

Or is it a term for someone's perception of attitudes? aka "acting like this/doing this MAY facilitate or create rape in the future [TO ME]"

Sure. Fine. Whats the problem here?

From the outside looking in, a white person could consider people going to a future concert a celebration of "drug/thug culture" as simply a description of attitude.

Yeah. Many people do. Black people (myself included) do often as well.

What gives someone's description validity to you to the extent that you parade around someone elses perceptions/descriptions as fact?

Because I have just as much of a right to describe what I see.