Discussion in 'The Booth' started by Pazzy, Jul 11, 2020.
I’m pretty sure @Harry B was arguing that he’s not a 1 hit wonder
He makes mostly trash music, even though he is highly skilled.
His Attitude... He was hard to work with and has always blamed every else for him not being successful musically..
I always think back to him complaining bout the single with Nate Dogg..
Didn't want it to be the 1st Single.. Then I think the Album got put on the Shelf.. smh
Joe is where he needs to be.. but his lack of success musically is all on him.
Fire was an awful song
From Pump it up I would never have thought in life he was an introspective rapper.
When Pump it up debuted I thought Joe was in line with Jay Z's club style rap at the time. Just pop, dance, club, safe music etc.
I loved his pay per view battle.
Then he just started dissing everyone on podcast. shyts scary. Good luck Joe.
That pump it up song was a summer banger when it dropped literally on the radio everyday!!!
that 2nd single with Busta flopped hard...Focus was the single the streets chose but they didnt capitalize on it. He started making better music in tune with his own vision and the label wasn't fukkin wit it. The Growth kept getting delayed. And here we are. That aside...he made a solid career for himself. I loved alot of the music he was making before Slaughterhouse.
I don't feel like Def Jam tried to sell JOE BUDDEN... they tried to sell a single that could've been anybody's.
Has nothing to do with whether it was lyrical or not cause it ain't like a lotta non-rappin' nikkas weren't sellin'. But it was the first real look for a rapper most people weren't familiar with unless they listened to Clue tapes... it was only gonna go so far, especially being that they followed up with a formulaic single that flopped, and an album that didn't have much push behind it. Also, Joe hadn't fully developed yet- he was kinda all-over-the-place, Jadakiss syndrome type shyt where he was trying every formula there was, tryin' to make it work.
Yeah it's been a standard since the vinyl days since only 12 songs/75 minutes could fit on a record. If his first album was double platinum though I'm sure he would've gotten his 18 songs lol
Only time I’ve ever heard a Budden song was on that old ass Madden (I think 03 or 04)
I think Red was a star, just not an A lister.
I always assumed you were from NY.
All I remember was Jay rapping over pump it up and damn near forgot it was his song.