So what went wrong with Joe "pump pump pump it up" budden

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    Why didnt joe budden blow up? I always felt that Joe is still bitter and wants to still have a rap career but hes using the profileration of ABC speak or spell trap rappers as an excuse to put down the mic.


    Personally think its because of the way he was pushed. They literally threw him out there during 50's run. If they had kept introduced him to the mainstream through guess appearances on random peoples albums, the public would have digested his music better or he would have been received by the public better.


    They threw him out there and hoped that the teen audience would gravitate to him. They were really relying on the teen MTV-TRL crowd heavy. They thought that crowd would have turned Joe a star overnight but Joe at the time was unknown. If you weren't into rap heavy at the time, you wouldnt know anything about dude except that he was affiliated with DJ clue and he was from Jersey. That's it.
     
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    A lot of people didn’t care about his content then. (Relationship struggles and self loathing)

    Then Drake came along with a more marketable image and blew up with that same exact content and style 6-7 years later when It was more accepted, I have always been sure it’s why he acts so salty towards Drake as much as he praises his music, it must sting even more considering Drake was a fan of him
     
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    Pump it up was a hit, but it was some bullshyt lyrically.

    plus please tell me what jersey niccas are marketable like that?
     
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    He had zero appeal to the female audience.
     
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    Breh, everybody is marketable if you know how to market right. They tried to market joe budden at a time when the gangster rap shyt was peaking. If Joe had released pump it up a year earlier, he would have been good since he could have swept some ja rule fans under his wing. That time and after 2005 when kanye's run started and pharrell and the gentrified rap started to come along.

    Plus his style wasnt there yet either. He was trying to brand himself as a street dude and that shyt almost backfired on him when that kid tried to kill him. He could have used that incident too to promote himself but he didnt. He made a song though.
     
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    That's a lie. He always had more female fans than male fans. It's that it wasnt cool to be a fan of his. The only dudes that checked for budden were deep rap fans. There were too many popular artists around at that time even the old school ones that had clout too that he was up against. He never had a chance. They set him up to fail.
     
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    Cornball just not marketable and is a subpar rapper. He's a jealous motherfukker too, that's why he stay saying slick shyt about more successful rappers. Trash nikka had to go the reality tv and podcast route.
     
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    Label issues
     
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    he lost the bring em out and im a hustla beats
     
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    Joe Budden does not make good music

    He was on the worst beat pickers and hook makers in rap history
     
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    As a youngin at the time who isn't from the NY area, pump it up made him seem like some generic ass Madden soundtrack ass rapper who got a hot beat.

    If his big single was something more lyrical people might've been more willing to see him as an actual legit artist at the time, but that song didn't make anyone think he was the type of rapper he actually was.
     
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    what jersey niccas are marketable tho?
     
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    @Pazzy od right when he says anything can be marketed right with the right people.

    IMO it’s a lot of factors, but Joe wasn’t the type of dude at heart that was a pump it up type guy. So those records would always feel forced from him. It didn’t come off very congruent. The mood muzik thing was more his lane, but there wasn’t a formula yet on how to market a lot of the simp/self loathing type music yet.

    also bad timing. Who else from 2003 ever blew up and stayed big? 50 swooped in and took everyone’s heat
     
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    What does jersey have to do with it? Serious question. Correlation doesn’t equal causation. Just because there aren’t any megastars from Jersey doesn’t mean being from jersey means you can’t be a star.

    Red man wasn’t a star in a classic sense, but he did very well in his era and report jersey hard.

    and btw I’m from the south. I have no bias for or against jersey.
     
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    joe budden is from jersey. i love south jersey.....


    but what jersey niccas are marketable? its a simple question
     

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