So what went wrong with Joe "pump pump pump it up" budden

[Kenyan West]

This thread is low key hilarious. " He ruined his songs with his own ad-libs"

 

[Boogie]

 

[010101]

mood muzik is a vibe you can listen to only once in awhile*

 

[Claudex]

He moved wrong.

 

[Yehuda]

pump it up made him seem like some generic ass Madden soundtrack ass rapper who got a hot beat.

/thread

 

[blizzard man]

joe budden is from jersey. i love south jersey.....


but what jersey niccas are marketable? its a simple question

sinatra

springsteen

lauryn hill

wyclef

redman

 

[ISO]

sinatra

springsteen

lauryn hill

wyclef

redman

Queen Latifah and Naughty by Nature.

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Why didnt joe budden blow up? I always felt that Joe is still bitter and wants to still have a rap career but hes using the profileration of ABC speak or spell trap rappers as an excuse to put down the mic.


Personally think its because of the way he was pushed. They literally threw him out there during 50's run. If they had kept introduced him to the mainstream through guess appearances on random peoples albums, the public would have digested his music better or he would have been received by the public better.


They threw him out there and hoped that the teen audience would gravitate to him. They were really relying on the teen MTV-TRL crowd heavy. They thought that crowd would have turned Joe a star overnight but Joe at the time was unknown. If you weren't into rap heavy at the time, you wouldnt know anything about dude except that he was affiliated with DJ clue and he was from Jersey. That's it.

Joe couldn’t craft a song to save his life. Same shyt that plagued most 00s era NYC rappers

 

[Ahadi]

Do you feel like he has resentment when he speaks on the podcast?

 

[2ATMsYouSteppinOrWhat]

Game washed him with that Buddens diss track

 

[jerzboy]

what jersey niccas are marketable tho?

stop man... most jersey artist have an alternative sense to their music. Just off black music alone we had:

naughty by nature
Redman
Queen Latifah
Fugees
L. Hill
Wyclef (respectable solo career)
Sza
Whitney Houston
Akon
Total

And that’s not even pop or rock

 

[The God Poster]

A lot of people didn’t care about his content then. (Relationship struggles and self loathing)

Then Drake came along with a more marketable image and blew up with that same exact content and style 6-7 years later when It was more accepted, I have always been sure it’s why he acts so salty towards Drake as much as he praises his music, it must sting even more considering Drake was a fan of him

I remember when Drake flow was identical to budden during the comeback season era

 

[tremonthustler1]

Focus shoulda been the song that broke him. That and his freestyles are what drew people to him (that and everyone thinking he was Rasheed Wallace at first)

Also, features were a big deal and he didn’t have anything to hang his hat on outside of his freestyles with Fabolous and Paul Cain.

 

[YourMajesty]

I remember hearing that Focus snippet on the pump it up video and being hyped for it. I was disappointed when I heard the full version smh.

 

[Turbulent]

Joe was percieved as a mark back then. Always taking Ls or doing stupid shyt.

Like that time he dissed Melle Mel over an MTV rapper list

There were other things but i don't feel like getting into it cause it's old news but he just seemed like an ass hole but every ass hole move he made always ended up being a bad look for him the way things played out. Wouldn't surprise me if he was the same behind the scenes and ended up burning a lot of bridges. Very unlikable dude. It seems like with age as well as experience in the game, he just mellowed out a lot and while he still comes off like an ass, at least he's somewhat likable. Plus his come up is legendary as far as underdog stories.