So...What's the Main Argument Against Reparations, Again?

[charmander]

statute of limitations

 

[MMA]

Black people need business reparations. An equal opportunity to get a business loan and property etc

 

[Shadow King]

The straight cash idea is not happening not is Uncle Sam not going bankrupt on behalf of black folks (the other groups posted in example are far less numerous than AAs), what number will yall be satisfied with? We're basically quantifying and placing a price tag on post-slavery distress and to be honest most people will fukk off whatever amount it is anyway.

I do think free education and/or tax-free income should happen though.

 

[5n0man]

Did you even click the link I posted?




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Did you even read my post?

 

[Inmate60863]

I posted a link with companies that made profit off of slavery and how they made it, then I said those companies should be bankrupt PAYING reparations and this is how you respond to me.

So none of the owners of these multi million and billion dollar corporation's have any direct or indirect responsibilities for slavery, even when they literally built their company and wealth off slaves?

1 in 5 white men being slave owners is a high ass number of slave owners.


Kids pay for their parents fukk ups all the time, but since white people kicked the can generations down the line, it shouldn't be up for debate?

 

[5n0man]

I posted a link with companies that made profit off of slavery and how they made it, then I said those companies should be bankrupt PAYING reparations and this is how you respond to me.

I quoted your post to respond to the other poster I quoted.

I was agreeing with you.



nikkas reading comprehension is failing them.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Black people need business reparations. An equal opportunity to get a business loan and property etc

This, plus education.

Handing out cash is pointless. Reparations should be in the form of no interest loans, free education, business education, etc.

Reparations should lead to ownership. Whether it’s home ownership, or (just as) importantly, through business ownership.
That is the only way that wealth can really be made, generated, and handed down. Which is exactly the same shyt that many white ppl have benefitted from.

Handing out 10k checks only feeds the current economy, and doesn’t really make the changes that need to happen.

 

[George's Dilemma]

Swear I hate these threads. The old saying, "I don't like to dream about getting paid" comes to mind. Yet here we are in this thread brainstorming on something that WILL NEVER happen. You'd be better off sticking a finger in your azz while staring at an eclipse in the hope that a unicorn will appear and recite the lyrics to Bad & Boujie in Creole.

If you know it's not gonna happen, why bother discussing it? Why debate the why's and the justifications if it has no possibility of coming to fruition? You work with what you have, what's available, what's possible, what's feasible, etc.. Stop entertaining fantasies. This is real life, not Star Wars. Ridiculous.

 

[Inmate60863]

I had no clue you was agreeing with me.

I quoted your post to respond to the other poster I quoted.

I was agreeing with you.



nikkas reading comprehension is failing them.

 

[Killigraphy]

So none of the owners of these multi million and billion dollar corporation's have any direct or indirect responsibilities for slavery, even when they literally built their company and wealth off slaves?



1 in 5 white men being slave owners is a high ass number of slave owners.


Kids pay for their parents fukk ups all the time, but since white people kicked the can generations down the line, it shouldn't be up for debate?

No one organization is only responsible for slavery. Everyone profited...but we can't just point at one group of people. Keep in mind that before the ships came, Africans, Spainards, Romans, and damn near everyone else were selling slaves.

Inheriting an empire is different than having literal slaves construct it. Again I tackled this already, the sins of the father are not the sins of the son.

1 in 5 against the majority that didn't. You're cherry picking here. Slavery is bad, however if we're trying to quantify reparations then this number needs to be taken into consideration.

It can be up for debate whenever, as is every issue, but asking for reparations this late in the game, isn't going to do much but open up more illogical cans of worms. And even if, like I mentioned before, you'd have to perform a lengthy vetting process that predates Civil War...good luck with that.

 

[Strapped]

Depends on what type of reparations we are talking about.

Pure Cash - If the government gave descendants of slaves enough money to make a change in their lives ($100K or better), it would bankrupt the government.

Investments/Schools/Infrastructure/Jobs - Makes sense but the government would argue that they are doing that anyways

It ain't gonna happen either way tho. anybody that thinks it's even a possibility thinks too highly of white people.

Lies .they can waste trillions on destroying stuff but not do something productive.they can easily print out those bills & hand it out

 

[Larry Lambo]

Lies .they can waste trillions on destroying stuff but not do something productive.they can easily print out those bills & hand it out

The 2017 Federal budget was $4 trillion and the planned deficit was $500B. If they wrote a $100K check for every descendant of slaves that would be at least another $3 trillion, and create a $3.5 trillion deficit.

That's not feasible. That would cause creditors to come in and shut down the country.

We spend that money for wars over a period of time. The Iraq War lasted 8 years and the cost of that war would equal to $5K per person per year for reparations. Again, that's not really going to change anything in our community and also is well under what is deserved. I also don't think yearly payouts are gonna satisfy the majority of people crying about reparations.

Regardless, a long term plan to develop communities, businesses, schooling, trades, etc. makes more sense than giving people cash. I doubt that would ever happen either, but at least it's something that would be viable in terms of execution and have a larger impact on the community.

 

[Remote]

Reparations paid directly paid to people would look like the Dave Chappelle skit with several white owned brands stocks soaring.

Black people dont have the financial literacy or infrastructure for that to work in our favour.

However business grants and College grants is a great idea, helps create autonomy and an educated race that doesnt squander the money on pointless material things.

It is never too late and aslong as Black people feel the effects of generations of being held back it will always be valid.

That's completely irrelevant.
Why should it matter how people spend the reparations?

Is anybody saying that Native Americans shouldn't get reparations because they'd just spend it on alcohol?
Or that Holocaust survivors would just spend it on bagels?

Or whatever lame/negative stereotype exists about people's cultures?

How people choose to spend their money is not a reason to deny them what they deserve.

 

[PCHMalibu]

Reparations paid directly paid to people would look like the Dave Chappelle skit with several white owned brands stocks soaring.

Black people dont have the financial literacy or infrastructure for that to work in our favour.

However business grants and College grants is a great idea, helps create autonomy and an educated race that doesnt squander the money on pointless material things.

It is never too late and aslong as Black people feel the effects of generations of being held back it will always be valid.

I'm all for reparations. Would much rather have land than education grants because having a degree doesn't equate financial success. Black ppl can earn all the degrees they want but that doesn't mean you will advance your career or earning potential. At least land can be leased and passed down.

 

[Iceson Beckford]

That's completely irrelevant.
Why should it matter how people spend the reparations?

Is anybody saying that Native Americans shouldn't get reparations because they'd just spend it on alcohol?
Or that Holocaust survivors would just spend it on bagels?

Or whatever lame/negative stereotype exists about people's cultures?

How people choose to spend their money is not a reason to deny them what they deserve.

Its relevant because it wont be effective. Reparations should be for elevating Black people as a whole and creating an economic base, not for material shyt. Reversing the effects will come from Black business and free eduction or land, not from buying shyt.

Don’t get me wrong, Id support giving it straight to people if that was the only option but I dont think its the best method. Im not denying them anything, give the money but just in a different way.

Offering free College is hardly denying Black people

The money would just go straight back to white people instead of being used effectively and circulating in the community