So when did being the best loser become more valuable than winning it all?

[dh86]

All on real gm and Reddit. Not sifting through all my shyt. At least not now. Basically the consensus is 6-0 doesn't matter

You said it, bring proof

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Cavs road to the finals last season = Warriors road to the finals.

No

 

[Fenian]

Nobody says this, the argument is that going 3/4 in the finals is better than 3/0 because making the finals 7 times and winning 3 is better than mailing the finals 3 times and winning 3.

It's simple stuff and I don't know how some fellas can't understand it.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

This is the same era where a man averaged a triple double for a season and nerds couldn't type fast enough that it's the most overrated stat. Also, one title in Cleveland equaled 2 or 3 anywhere else. It's like living in an alternate universe

Also Lebron is playing with house money this year, so it doesn't matter if he loses to GSW

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Nobody says this, the argument is that going 3/4 in the finals is better than 3/0 because making the finals 7 times and winning 3 is better than mailing the finals 3 times and winning 3.

It's simple stuff and I don't know how some fellas can't understand it.

No. Anytime someone says Jordan went 6-0 some idiot says "why's getting knocked out early better than losing in the finals"

Y'all nikkas trying to act all brand new

 

[dh86]

No

Pistons beat the Rockets last year, Hawks sure as hell beats the Blazers. Warriors avoided the toughest west matchups per usual.

 

[smitty22]

Show me examples of LeBron stans saying this.

I dont even see Bron stans saying he better than MJ. I see threads and opinions if he beats this Warriors team or if he wins x amount more chips in the future maybe then. Of course you got trolls who say he is better than MJ but trolls gonna troll

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

You said it, bring proof

Here's one...

The argument is made all time on there and realgm. Which atleast to my knowledge are the 2 most popular NBA forums

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Pistons beat the Rockets last year, Hawks sure as hell beats the Blazers. Warriors avoided the toughest west matchups per usual.

I don't give a fukk about what happened in regular season games over the course of a long 82 game season.

Plus they played OKC

 

[dh86]

Also Lebron is playing with house money this year, so it doesn't matter if he loses to GSW

Scottie is 6-0 too, won 55 games in 94 & made the conference finals in 2000 without MJ, who did nothing w/o Scottie. What that mean? You see where horrifyingly simple arguments take you?

 

[Fenian]

No. Anytime someone says Jordan went 6-0 some idiot says "why's getting knocked out early better than losing in the finals"

Y'all nikkas trying to act all brand new

That getting knocked out early shyt only gets brought up when people try and act like Bron going 3/4 means he's some kind of scrub as if it would be better if he went 3/0, which isn't true at all.

Of course 6/0 is better than 3/4 because MJ won more titles, never seen anyone on this forum make an argument against that.

 

[Champ_KW]

He still has to beat the best team to come out of the west every year

It's weird though. I mean 2 of the losses were no mans land. And there are people who lost finals that they were actually favorites in.

07' against the Spurs, that Cavs team had no business being in the finals
And the Warriors without Love and Kyrie

Are two that any player is going to lose in my opinion.

Mavs was inexcusable
Spurs you can't make excuses for, he chose Miami

Still, 3-4 is still excellent, and he can retire with 7 depending on how this all plays out

And that sir, is where the nuance lies. There's two sides to this.....are you saying the team with the second best record in the East with 50 wins should not have made the Finals? Or are you conceding that playing in an East that year were only two playoff teams scratched 50 wins proves that the Conference is ass and that he's feasting on inferior competition to get to the Finals?

 

[Marc Spector]

The expansion era argument is so fukking stupid,especially since a huge part of the expansion was due to the interest Jordan responsible for creating.

And why do y'all act like he played played the whole season in 1995



Lastly, 1990 bulls were sooooooooooooooooo stacked with talent .....

1989-90 Chicago Bulls Roster and Stats | Basketball-Reference.com

lolwut

And nikka? Just because the League expanded because of Jordans popularity doesn't mean the Bulls (and other top teams for that matter) didnt benefit from a diluted talent pool.

nikkas kill me acting like increasing by 6 teams in 7 years won't have an impact on a league

 

[onelastdeath]

And that sir, is where the nuance lies. There's two sides to this.....are you saying the team with the second best record in the East with 50 wins should not have made the Finals? Or are you conceding that playing in an East that year were only two playoff teams scratched 50 wins proves that the Conference is ass and that he's feasting on inferior competition to get to the Finals?

I'd say that his greatness and impact as an individual come with consequences. Similar to him not ever having another young player to grow with because his presence makes a team immediately better good, but maybe not great.

He can make a terrible team good, and a good team great. But good teams rarely win Championships

Also it took some all time great performances from a 22 year old to even get there.

 

[FS4LFE]

lolwut

And nikka? Just because the League expanded because of Jordans popularity doesn't mean the Bulls (and other top teams for that matter) didnt benefit from a diluted talent pool.

nikkas kill me acting like increasing by 6 teams in 7 years won't have an impact on a league

Shh they don't want to hear that.
According to some people on this forum every team in the 90s was elite.