So when did it become popular to act like Eminem DIDN'T outshine Jay on "Renegade"?

[RTF]

Em floated on the track but Jay was saying the realer shyt to me. Jay put out one of those verses that talk explicitly to the heart of black struggle.

A double entendre
I had to hustle, my back to the wall, ashy knuckles
Pockets filled with a lot of lint, not a cent
Then jay flips it
Durag wrapping my waves up, pockets full of hope

My demeanor, thirty years my senior
My childhood didn't mean much, only raising green up
^^^ some real shyt
I drove by the fork in the road and went straight

That's just ill

 

[facebook]

fukk Eminem. now dap me

 

[Won Won]

Nobody got washed.

That's not how it works in the world of Classic/Trash extremes

 

[pointproven214]

eminem washed jay-z up wether u like eminem or not

 

[DontEemTry]

nikkas really sayin they was feelin that white boy angst that Eminem was spittin over the hood realities that Hov was spittin.

Let that sink in for a minute.

 

[Harry B]

No one said Eminem killed Jay until Ether and then all the Eminem stans ran with it.

IMO and if I recall right, people said both killed it, a few more people said Em got it and I agree, Eminem was insane 2000-03.
The technical skills he displayed on that joint were serious, Jay was not going strong on the technique he was solid but wasn't going all the way in like Em did. Lyrically Em had that too even though Jay was spitting realer shyt but it's entertainment, it's not always about who spits the realest shyt.

 

[PhonZhi]

Yall tryin to convince yaselves that Jay had the better verse, but everybody with 2 ears knows that Em had the more entertaining verse by far. Has nothing to do with Nas telling us who was better. I guaruantee none of you Em haters fast forward his verse. Stop fronting on the internet for daps and give Em his due.

 

[RTF]

No one said Eminem killed Jay until Ether and then all the Eminem stans ran with it.

IMO and if I recall right, people said both killed it, a few more people said Em got it and I agree, Eminem was insane 2000-03.
The technical skills he displayed on that joint were serious, Jay was not going strong on the technique he was solid but wasn't going all the way in like Em did. Lyrically Em had that too even though Jay was spitting realer shyt but it's entertainment, it's not always about who spits the realest shyt.

I don't remember anything he said.

I'm a motherfukking spiteful, delightful eyeful -this is lyrical miracle territory.

Eminem tore it up. The flow was devilish. The intricacy of the rhymes are to be respected from a technical perspective. But lyrically - Jay had the best bars.

No offence breh but all your posts I read, you have garbage opinions.

 

[Harry B]

I don't remember anything he said.

I'm a motherfukking spiteful, delightful eyeful -this is lyrical miracle territory.

Eminem tore it up. The flow was devilish. The intricacy of the rhymes are to be respected from a technical perspective. But lyrically - Jay had the best bars.

No offence breh but all your posts I read, you have garbage opinions.

Post half a bar of like 32 as a proof for weak lyrics .

And those bars connect perfectly with the following line "The new ice cube, motherfukkers hate to like you" and the multi syllables are mean too.

Jay does not sound like a renegade on the track, if that the shyt normal people are afraid to holler about Jay must have a calm ass mind or lyrically he just wasn't imaginative enough or he didn't want to offend his political connects. Whatever it was Eminems lyrics were on topic and he built his verses better than Jay.

This is music, art i.e. subjectivity, it's not facts kid no need to getty grumpy.

 

[Brosef]

this thread again

Jay laced it but that's what made Em's verse stick out even more

 

[MAKAVELI25]

this thread again

Jay laced it but that's what made Em's verse stick out even more

Jay was doing him a service

 

[vampire xtc]

always gave it a verse each

eminem had the stronger flow which wasnt surprising he made the beat after all lol

but anyway

jay = 1 verse

em = 1 verse and flow

so technically thats 2 -1

no one ever said oh he got murdered or bodied till nas said it


irony is nas removed his verse off desperado after canibus spit on it years prior plus has has been out done by the bravehearts of all people on that horrific remix


regardless after 83765473 songs with 837465764 features

cant ALWAYS win no matter who you are

people still livin off a battle from going on 15 years ago

irony is most of the dudes doin this were like just born back then or were way too young to realize wtf was even goin on lol

 

[Nobodyknows]

the majority of coli hate Eminem with a passion

 

[MAKAVELI25]

always gave it a verse each

eminem had the stronger flow which wasnt surprising he made the beat after all lol

but anyway

jay = 1 verse

em = 1 verse and flow

so technically thats 2 -1

no one ever said oh he got murdered or bodied till nas said it


irony is nas removed his verse off desperado after canibus spit on it years prior plus has has been out done by the bravehearts of all people on that horrific remix


regardless after 83765473 songs with 837465764 features

cant ALWAYS win no matter who you are

people still livin off a battle from going on 15 years ago

irony is most of the dudes doin this were like just born back then or were way too young to realize wtf was even goin on lol

Why do nikkaz keep saying this dumb shyt? I said that as soon as I heard the verse

 

[Anti-Anime]

White boy got him, jigga stans need to move on