So when did it become popular to act like Eminem DIDN'T outshine Jay on "Renegade"?

[Xyrax]

Em killed this record, and yeah he outshined Jay on it.

The worst thing to ever happen involving this record however was Nas bringing it up. Because Nas used it as a weapon against Jay, EVERY Jay-Z stan in existence is thereby required to pretend that Em did not kill the track, even though we all know he did. Were it not brought up by Nas in a Jay-Z diss, everyone would be comfortable admitting the truth because Jay has so many W's on his record that this little hitch wouldn't matter. But Nas made this shyt a tipping point for the fanboys. So now any discussion involving it is polluted.

Politics stay fukking up hip-hops discourse.

 

[AMcV'88]

isn't that what the kids listen and root for now? that could legit describe Tyler the Creator minus the pill popping

Eminem been doing it since the mid to late twenties and still does it in his 40's.
only now he mixes it with these fake inspirational coming out songs for the gay community.

even though i rarely listen to him, i'd like to think as much of an attention seeker he is, Tyler would grow out of that subject matter as he gets into his mid twenties and focus more on production.

 

[criminology]

Jay had the content, but Eminem had the perfect delivery and intense energy, which is why people give it to him. It's not murdered on your own shyt status unless you ignore the lyrics. Which is almost possible because Eminem came with it and I can't fukking stand Eminem.

 

[Zero]

What about ems verse makes you say it was better than jays aside from the fact that gnauze said so? Enquiring minds would like to know

booth will call eminem wacc all day except when it comes to this verse cuz their hero nas said eminem rapped good on it

Close thread

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

I wouldn't be surprised if Jay hired a staff of online "agents" to dissiminate this propaganda across the internets

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Really? I guess but I felt like em wordplay was better

he ain't use any wordplay

 

[Uchiha God]

I prefer Jay's verses

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

When he released 4-5 garbage albums in a row

That Relapse album wasn't too bad the production was good and he had some crazy shyt like on "Stay Wide Awake"

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

The whole "Eminem always sucked" shyt started on message boards in the early 2000s and it didn't help that Eminem's cac fanbase is ridiculous. Back in like '99 and 2000 nikkas was saying "oh shyt this white boy is nice " anyone saying that's not true is lying

Of course I could never relate to his subject matter just as I can't relate to being Mafioso but I always respect skill when I see it.

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

he ain't use any wordplay

He didn't use any wordplay on dead wrong

 

[intilectual recipricol]

He didn't use any wordplay on dead wrong

no, he didn't. Aye breh you been lost for this long not knowing what wordplay is

 

[ReasonableMatic]

I had to hustle, my back to the wall, ashy knuckles
Pockets filled with a lotta lint
Not a cent, gotta vent
Lotta innocent lives lost on the project bench
Whatchu hollering, gotta pay rent, bring dollars in
By the bodega, iron under my coat, feeling braver
Du-rag wrapping my waves up, pockets full of hope

Those bars always hit me harder than Em's..

 

[intilectual recipricol]

I had to hustle, my back to the wall, ashy knuckles
Pockets filled with a lotta lint
Not a cent, gotta vent
Lotta innocent life's lost on the project bench
Whatchu hollering, gotta pay rent bring dollars in.
By the bodega, iron under my coat, feeling braver
Du-rag wrapping my waves up, pockets full of hope

Those bars always hit me harder than Em's..

And flowed better

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

no, he didn't. Aye breh you been lost for this long not knowing what wordplay is

X splain it to me breh breh

 

[intilectual recipricol]

X splain it to me breh breh

Y'all don't see clearly cuz the rain/reign ain't gone
The dynasty, no not Ming but Shawn

That is wordplay...