It wouldn't let me delete any of them so I just added him, but I think the poll a little too far gone to matter anyway.
That said, I wouldn't even be mad at Jimmy being be a 2x Most Improved Player winner
So who's gonna win MVP this season?
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It wouldn't let me delete any of them so I just added him, but I think the poll a little too far gone to matter anyway.
That said, I wouldn't even be mad at Jimmy being be a 2x Most Improved Player winner
ManBearPig
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Actually the rockets might get that 4th spot. If the rocket get like 54 wins and Harden keeps beasting like he is now then MVP shouldn't be out of the question
ManBearPig
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Its possible
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Didn't Kidd almost won the MVP over Duncan even tho the nets only won 52 games?
yeah but it won't happen this year
they don't play that any more
ManBearPig
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nikka how u know. Its the same circumstance
Billups: not that good
Duncan and Dirk: stacked teams
Kobe: Lakers didn't win much
DeMar DeRozan: not that good
lebron, curry, and KD: stacked teams
Westbrook: thunder not gonna win a lot
I got kawhi winning it this year anyway
Like Nash when Amare went out, harden lost his big man
Gil Scott-Heroin
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As I've said, you're putting far too much weight into what happened last season/offseason, and not enough of what happens this season. With each passing day, that 'record breaking 73-win team" narrative will be further drowned out in favor of Durant's all-time great efficiency, historic play and his contributions to the Warriors as how they're built now. That will be at the forefront when the voting period comes around.
That "certain extent" you've made abundantly clear is that he has no chance at all. I'm arguing that he has a great chance if the Warriors finish as the #1 seed - history dictates so.
That all depends on whom the voters deem contributes the most to both teams at the end of the season. One thing's for sure, Griffin will need to continue to be their leading scorer if they want to keep winning at this pace, and therefore he'll take a lot of praise away from CP3 that he'd otherwise get in favor over Durant.
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When the Warriors lost to the Spurs and Lakers everyone was saying they loss too much depth. How can you be a worse team but have players too good to win a MVP?
Gil Scott-Heroin
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He finished 2nd last season largely due to the fact that the Spurs finished as the 2nd seed. Anything less than that and he's not going to win MVP this season.
What happened last season/offseason is absolutely going to be a factor. This was not your average offseason. I don't see how it's going to be just completely brushed aside that Durant joined a team that was already legendary without him. Again, I'm not talking about my personal opinion, I'm talking about how I think it will be voted. From an objective standpoint, yes it really shouldn't matter, but that's just not how this shyt works. The media has biases and they form narratives, and I'm really not seeing a scenario where Durant joining an already stacked squad doesn't hurt him this year.
I don't think Griffin being the leading scorer would hurt CP3 at all. After all, Steve Nash won two MVP's without being the leading scorer on his team. He's viewed as the leader of the team by the masses regardless.
The award especially in recent years has gravitated towards the "best player on best team" prototypenikka how u know. Its the same circumstance
Billups: not that good
Duncan and Dirk: stacked teams
Kobe: Lakers didn't win much
DeMar DeRozan: not that good
lebron, curry, and KD: stacked teams
Westbrook: thunder not gonna win a lot
I got kawhi winning it this year anyway
Like Nash when Amare went out, harden lost his big man
Gil Scott-Heroin
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It won't be completely be brushed aside, but it certainly WON'T take precedence over what happens this season.
This is the problem here, you made this thread based upon what you thought the narrative was at the time - whatever narrative and bias you think existed prior to the season starting isn't going to be nearly as strong 10 months later. All that will matter is what the most dominant basketball fictive will be when it comes time to vote, and that's usually based around play during the season - not what took place before it. Will the 'Durant joining a stacked team' spot play a part? Of course, just as every bias built from previous seasons (voters simply not liking players, valuing different stats that favor other players more than others, valuing both ends of the floor rather than just offensive play etc etc) plays a part too.
I wouldn't really use Nash as the rule, especially since i) they aren't the same voters/voting has changed since then ii) we don't know what tag will be placed on BG as the season goes along iii) rarely ever to non-leading scorers win MVP.
Jimmy putting up better numbers than Kawhi, Bulls tied for 2nd in the East. Hoiberg blew a few games for us playing Rondo and Portis.
I stand firm that him joining the Warriors will negatively affect his MVP campaign this season, and it will factor in to why he will not win it. At this point there's not much that I or you can say that hasn't already been said, so we'll just have to agree to disagree and see what happens in the spring
Well I'm not trying to campaign for CP3 to win MVP, but yes as of now I do believe that if the Clippers win in the high 60's like they're currently on pace to do, it will be him that gets most of the glory, regardless of if he leads them in scoring or not, which he hasn't done since he's been with them btw.
ManBearPig
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KD wasn't on those warriors teams in the last 2 seasons. I told you they are going to cancel each other out unless one gets hurt and the other carried the load and help that team wins 65+ games
ManBearPig
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I stand firm that him joining the Warriors will negatively affect his MVP campaign this season, and it will factor in to why he will not win it. At this point there's not much that I or you can say that hasn't already been said, so we'll just have to agree to disagree and see what happens in the spring
Well I'm not trying to campaign for CP3 to win MVP, but yes as of now I do believe that if the Clippers win in the high 60's like they're currently on pace to do, it will be him that gets most of the glory, regardless of if he leads them in scoring or not, which he hasn't done since he's been with them btw.
Clippers ain't winning no high 60's breh
