So why can't we kill kids in video games?

[Mr. Manhattan]

so killing innocent women and men is ok then ? as long as they over 18 I guess that makes you not a psycho right ?

It's kids muthafukka I don't need to explain why this is a terrible idea
GTA3 was already controversial when it was released, kids are hardly seen being killed in movies
the graphic nature will not only cause an uproar in people but companies risk losing money if the NTSC takes that shyt off the shelf, stop being an idiot

 

[up in here]

you now telling me what should bother me ? the fukk outta here, speak for yourself and for yourself onlyif a game allows me to beat a woman with a bat after I had sex with her for money, brutally murder her and burn her corpse with fire, its hypocritical for games arbitrarily setting stupid rules on not killing a certain demographics.if a game like postal 2 allows me to piss on a woman to make her vomit and then chop her up with a scythe and then use a meatcleaver to chop up a random dog...but no children is highly hypocriticalespecially since games before they turned soft and casual/streamlined allowed that option and even were anticipating that option

just drop it man cause now youre just being a dikk. seriously, incase you dont realize, you are arguing for the inclusion of the ability to kill kids in video games. if this is really something that is important to you than you need to seek help. if its not important to you and you just want to be a dikk about it, than you are a pathetic individual. yes thats a judgement call that i would gladly make in this instance

 

[yseJ]

It's kids muthafukka I don't need to explain why this is a terrible idea
GTA3 was already controversial when it was released, kids are hardly seen being killed in movies
the graphic nature will not only cause an uproar in people but companies risk losing money if the NTSC takes that shyt off the shelf, stop being an idiot

Im not being an idiot
I just think its extremely hypociritical of you to say someone is a psycho if he wants to be able to kill kids in the game, but men, women or animals are absolutely fine and ok.

still, in first two fallouts it went fine without outcries. probably because players playing it on PC were more adult or maybe the graphics werent too realistic back then...

 

[Crakface]

Because it would inspire more white kids to kill.

The Last Of Us took away some of that taboo.

 

[Easy-E]

NSA is havin' a field day with this thread

 

[yseJ]

just drop it man cause now youre just being a dikk. seriously, incase you dont realize, you are arguing for the inclusion of the ability to kill kids in video games. if this is really something that is important to you than you need to seek help. if its not important to you and you just want to be a dikk about it, than you are a pathetic individual. yes thats a judgement call that i would gladly make in this instance

I just want you to stop being hypocritical

if I can do this
in a videogame to men women and animals, then why not kids ?

this applies to movies as well. the culture says its ok and even 'cool' to kill men women [and animals sometimes] but kids are offlimits

again, I dont *want* to kill kids. I dont even *want* to kill adults like that in a video game. Im trying to understand why killing of men women and animals volently is *ok* to you and others, but killing kids is not

 

[Black Magisterialness]

the question is why do you need to...pushing the envelope just for the sake of doing it is a huge mistake in gaming this isn't post-modernism or mannerism. If something shocking like that isn't in the context of the story then its pointless. The Modern Warfare stuff i felt was all part of the bigger picture and the kid cut scene was done well because it was unexpected.

Now if a game could do a proper African child soldier level i'd not only applaud its risk but also hype its exposure of a larger issue.

but shock for shocks sake makes for really shytty games, look at Postal

 

[Brofato]

as opposed to a sadistic dude fukking a prostitute beating her with a bat and then running her over with a car, then taking her money ?

besides, a sadist would prolly be more likely to play postal 2/3 if hes into that kinda shyt

Hey, sadism all around, I say. shyt wouldn't make a difference to me. I would still kill indiscriminately. It would probably even add to it in like GTA or something seeing a mom getting separated from her kid because of a car I needed or something and then driving it into a river with the kid still in the seat.

I know I used to do that shyt a lot when people wouldn't get out of the cars.

 

[up in here]

I just want you to stop being hypocritical
if I can do this in a videogame to men women and animals, then why not kids ?
this applies to movies as well. the culture says its ok and even 'cool' to kill men women [and animals sometimes] but kids are offlimits
again, I dont *want* to kill kids. I dont even *want* to kill adults like that in a video game. Im trying to understand why killing of men women and animals volently is *ok* to you and others, but killing kids is not

if youre trying to argue against violence in video games across the board you are going about it in the worst way possible.

also, two wrongs dont make a right, so allowing kids to be killed in video games just to prevent hypocracy does not make everything ok.

 

[yseJ]

the question is why do you need to...pushing the envelope just for the sake of doing it is a huge mistake in gaming this isn't post-modernism or mannerism. If something shocking like that isn't in the context of the story then its pointless. The Modern Warfare stuff i felt was all part of the bigger picture and the kid cut scene was done well because it was unexpected.

Now if a game could do a proper African child soldier level i'd not only applaud its risk but also hype its exposure of a larger issue.

but shock for shocks sake makes for really shytty games, look at Postal

sounds like you havent played many violent games in your life. theres plenty where there is violence for the sake of violence (Im not talking about goody-two-shoes games where all you kill is terrorists and utterly bad guys). postal 2 is a decent game too.

again, I dont NEED to. just explain the hypocrisy as to random people can be killed and kids cannot.

a public outcry is a good explanation, but I want to take it deeper and see why the act is so taboo in entertainment industry (movies, music, games) where killing adults is often glorified, idolized and made pretty much routine.

 

[winb83]

check the Last of Us. you can't kill a kid directly but indirectly and watch a kid die gruesomely.

 

[yseJ]

also, two wrongs dont make a right, so allowing kids to be killed in video games just to prevent hypocracy does not make everything ok.

so you agree there's hypocrisy there ? fair enough.

look, I get the whole notion about why its morally wrong to kill children in entertainment - theyre epitome of innocence. but then innocent adults are so often killed and its quite routine in games like GTA.

again, old fallout was pretty honest- you could kill children, but then people would consider you a child killer, they wouldnt talk to you and all that. it was very logical from that point of view. it was morally wrong, and the game gave you consequences for doing so.

oh well, think Im going to stop here before yall call 911 on me peace

 

[Black Magisterialness]

sounds like you havent played many violent games in your life. theres plenty where there is violence for the sake of violence (Im not talking about goody-two-shoes games where all you kill is terrorists and utterly bad guys). postal 2 is a decent game too.

again, I dont NEED to. just explain the hypocrisy as to random people can be killed and kids cannot.

a public outcry is a good explanation, but I want to take it deeper and see why the act is so taboo in entertainment industry (movies, music, games) where killing adults is often glorified, idolized and made pretty much routine.

Don't make assumptions, breh. games and violence go hand in hand. But name me a narrative game where killing anything wasn't a major part of the point. (besides puzzle or sports) Games JUST got to the point of morally grey this/last gen with things like Braid and Shadow of the Colossus. Part of justifying violence in games was the fact that majority of your enemies WERE obviously evil. It sounds like YOU haven't played many games outside of GTA and Postal. Open world has to be cartoony to a point because it would be boring without it.

and If you think Postal 2 is a decent game your opinion on the matter is void. Both Postals are AWFUL games.

to go even deeper, you a clearly disregarding the cultural and biological norms of humanity. We don't kill kids often because everything in our genetics and cultural institutions says we PROTECT children. In fact, when a kid dies in film/games its a plot device used to enrage or depress the protagonist, a child's death is seen as a GROSS failure in art/media/culture ect.

A week in anthropology class will tell you that, you are asking a question that has a very obvious answer, you got these responses because this is something that you should not only know scholastically but also inherently.

 

[yseJ]

and If you think Postal 2 is a decent game your opinion on the matter is void. Both Postals are AWFUL games.

there are 3 postals and second one is decent. 3 is utter garbage.
I dont really see what my liking of one game has to do with anything.

to go even deeper, you a clearly disregarding the cultural and biological norms of humanity. We don't kill kids often because everything in our genetics and cultural institutions says we PROTECT children. In fact, when a kid dies in film/games its a plot device used to enrage or depress the protagonist, a child's death is seen as a GROSS failure in art/media/culture ect.

A week in anthropology class will tell you that, you are asking a question that has a very obvious answer, you got these responses because this is something that you should not only know scholastically but also inherently.

I already said I know the answer and it resides in innocence and helplessness. But same innocence and helplessness is in innocent adults when you nuke half the city with bombs and shyt an innocent helpless bystander in GTA is no more guilty to deserved to be killed than a child, morally speaking.

 

[Sugar]

*imagines someone making a Hunger Games video game that allows you to murk off kids Rue's age*