So you still got guys who think Kyrie better than Wall????

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I'd take wall over kyrie because of when bron was on the heat everything went to shyt. Wall has been able to get the wiz in the postseason as the guy. If he had a guy like lebron im pretty sure his assist would be higher and still be able to drop 20
 

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Boy shut the fukk up


Come with some better arguments, or I'll slap you with my keyboard. He's behind Steph Curry in defensive win shares -- is Steph Curry an impact defender? Is he shutting other guards down?

:gucci:Watch some games.
 

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Some of yall nikkas reach to no end. Kyrie and Wall are 2 completely different players, with 2 different skill sets. Wall is 6'4 and probably the best or second best athlete at the point guard spot. He should rebound, and be a good defender. He has shown to be a better playmaker for others than Irving to this point, although he has played on much better teams.
What was Wall doing his 1st 3-4 years in the league? What I don't get is yall love to talk about what was Kyrie doing before Lebron.....Go look at his numbers. He was a career 20+ point scorer before Bron. He was an all-star MVP before Bron. Team success is based on the kind of talent you have around you. Wall had a team built around him, and now he is flourishing. Kyrie been scoring 20+ a game since he was 19. He took sorry Cleveland teams and beat playoff teams, but no one player can consistently win with that talent. He gets Bron in his 4th season. He never had the luxury of having a team built around him like Wall. Here are the Wizards records Wall's 1st 3 seasons: 23-59,20-46,29-53. The Cavs in Kyrie first 3 seasons 19-63, 24-45, 24-58. I would post their actual numbers, but I really aint trying to make Wall look bad, cause he play for the home team and I like Wall. We haven't seen Kyrie on a team built around his skills. And for all the talk about how the Cavs play without Bron, remember, this team was built by Lebron, for Lebron. They aren't this uber talented team outside the big 3. 3 years ago Shump and JR were on their way out the league, and Channing Frye, and Jefferson are washed. Those guys being solid contributors is a direct result of Lebron's greatness. Kyrie ain't in that category, but Wall ain't either.
 
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Come with some better arguments, or I'll slap you with my keyboard. He's behind Steph Curry in defensive win shares -- is Steph Curry an impact defender? Is he shutting other guards down?

:gucci:Watch some games.

You idiot I watch damn near all Wall games,all that advanced statistics don't mean shyt,everybody know Steph aint got no defense
 

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kyrie is a number 2, and so is wall. hes never going to win a title as the best player

I wouldnt say that. It depends on what kind of team would be assembled. Nevertheless, people love Kyrie because he is unstoppable offensive player and so much fun to watch. I love watching the guy. I love watching John too, but the fact is, John is just a better overall player. His ability to DDD is uncanny now. The way he is in tune with his teammates is almost like telepathy. While John isnt the clutch shooter that Kyrie is, if he were on the Cavs....I for sure would favor them over the Warriors. While they may be champs again, its not as easy to say with Kyrie because if you stifle his offense somehow it limits his effectiveness greatly.
 
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