So you still got guys who think Kyrie better than Wall????

[NYC Rebel]

Dudes are really underrating John Wall.

Kyrie is my favorite player in the league, but Wall is a better assist man and defender. To put at the end of games theatrics as an attribute that dwarfs all others is trash.

 

[Bledswole]

These are just words that don't matter when put into practice. Is Wall's great defense gon stop Lowry or IT2 from putting 30 a game down his neck in 3 months?

Nope.

Can he respond with his own 30 a game?

Nope.

Name ONE PG in the league who can actually stop another teams PG ALL THESE PG's LIGHT each other up.

nikka Kyrie only relevant and going to the playoffs because of Lebron,you in here talking like Kyrie really that guy,Lebron go down right now Cavs IN TROUBLE

Wall goes down right now Wizards in trouble.

Kyrie goes down right now CAVS STILL MAKE THE FINALS

See how that work

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Dudes are really underrating John Wall.

Kyrie is my favorite player in the league, but Wall is a better assist man and defender. To put at the end of games theatrics as an attribute that dwarfs all others is trash.

Those "end of games theatrics" as you put it actually go a long way when weighing up impact. shyt you could make the argument that there's 5-10 PGs at least who're better assist men and defenders than Kyrie, that doesn't mean all those PGs are better players.

 

[Bledswole]

I keep forgetting that I'm talking to a rockbrain.

Shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass house

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass house

What team in the Eastern conference last season would be able to beat the Cavs if Hayward replaced LeBron, without a doubt? And I want a thorough explanation as to why.

 

[Basaglia]

Name ONE PG in the league who can actually stop another teams PG ALL THESE PG's LIGHT each other up.

nikka Kyrie only relevant and going to the playoffs because of Lebron,you in here talking like Kyrie really that guy,Lebron go down right now Cavs IN TROUBLE

Wall goes down right now Wizards in trouble.

Kyrie goes down right now CAVS STILL MAKE THE FINALS

See how that work

I didn't say who can stop who. I asked can WALL score with the other elite guys in the playoffs. He can't. He's 38% shooter when it matters most. When the game becomes halfcourt and skillsets are at a premium. He's an open court guy. That's where his numbers come from.

Cavs don't care about making finals. They care about winning the finals. That can only be done with Kyrie.

 

[ajnapoleon]

Name ONE PG in the league who can actually stop another teams PG ALL THESE PG's LIGHT each other up.

nikka Kyrie only relevant and going to the playoffs because of Lebron,you in here talking like Kyrie really that guy,Lebron go down right now Cavs IN TROUBLE

Wall goes down right now Wizards in trouble.

Kyrie goes down right now CAVS STILL MAKE THE FINALS

See how that work

If Lebron goes down they fukked and people know it

Love and kyrie play great with Lebron but there is no one in the league that can cover the holes Lebron can

Shoot Lebron played point the entire game bringing the ball up that's kyrie job right?

And when I say played point HE ran the entire offense


Who else can do that as well as rebound and run the defense then play back up center?

Hayward? Durant? Who?

 

[Microfracture]

Kyrie is the better player. People get too caught up in the point guard being a jack of all trades and lose sight of the object of the game. Wall's individual defensive ability does not make him a better basketball player than Kyrie who is one of the most gifted scorers in the league.

 

[ajnapoleon]

Kyrie is the better player. People get too caught up in the point guard being a jack of all trades and lose sight of the object of the game. Wall's individual defensive ability does not make him a better basketball player than Kyrie who is one of the most gifted scorers in the league.

They not the same player but they in different situations I believe kyrie with Lebron makes them a more lethal team due to kyrie scoring and craftiness

But wall is a great player also


I like great players

 

[Bledswole]

Kyrie is the better player. People get too caught up in the point guard being a jack of all trades and lose sight of the object of the game. Wall's individual defensive ability does not make him a better basketball player than Kyrie who is one of the most gifted scorers in the league.

No when the jack of all trades PG is winning and putting up big numbers that's when it becomes relevant,Kyrie game is not suited to carry a team,you put Kyrie on Wizards right now they wouldn't be3rd place in the East,Kyrie is a scorer,thats it.

 

[Bledswole]

I didn't say who can stop who. I asked can WALL score with the other elite guys in the playoffs. He can't. He's 38% shooter when it matters most. When the game becomes halfcourt and skillsets are at a premium. He's an open court guy. That's where his numbers come from.

Cavs don't care about making finals. They care about winning the finals. That can only be done with Kyrie.

We gon see what Wall do this year in the playoffs.

And no Wall numbers are coming in half court situations,off pick and rolls just like every other PG,watch some Wizards game,tho he is unstoppable in transition

 

[NatiboyB]

Now would I trade Kyrie for wall nope...But I really like wall.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

What does Kyrie do better than Rondo besides dribble?

nikka nice dont get me wrong but Rondo is a better passer,leader,defender,athlete than Irving.

Irving only beats Rondo in dribbling and scoring

Reduce player comparisons to sum equations of arbitrary skill standards and make yourself look like a fool brehs.

 

[Bledswole]

What team in the Eastern conference last season would be able to beat the Cavs if Hayward replaced LeBron, without a doubt? And I want a thorough explanation as to why.

A few,man Cavs record is trash when Lebron doesn't play,Gordon Hayward just gonna replace a top 3 player of all time and make that big of a difference? Ok you got it

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Kyrie is the better player. People get too caught up in the point guard being a jack of all trades and lose sight of the object of the game. Wall's individual defensive ability does not make him a better basketball player than Kyrie who is one of the most gifted scorers in the league.

It's 2017 and still muh'fukkas don't know how to weigh up impact properly.