Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
Y'all still chopping it up with this Mises.org astroturfer?
Last week he told me I should play the bitcoin market
Last week he told me I should play the bitcoin market
Social responsibility and capitalism.
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You guys truly believe voluntary interaction between people is silly? 
Your position on every issue is consistent with it, so it shouldn't be so shocking...
Your position on every issue is consistent with it, so it shouldn't be so shocking...
This meme makes me think of you guys 
Specifically allegro of the cave, if i remember correctly...
You think freedom is obsolete at this point, and i disagree. Its no biggie really, and I dont think you are uneducated or stupid for buying into that idea or any of the states nonsense.
and the answer is to think for them?...
The arrogance
You're just banging your head against a wall, friend. We are surrounded by commies. Social Democracy is actually a legitimate system but they can't even argue that platform well in this thread. I personally have no problem with mixed market economies(Canada & the Scandinavian countries pull it off pretty well) but, the problem with the mixed market in the States is you have too much government intervention which leads to crony capitalism. The lobbyists, special interests groups and government mismanagement are what's driving the states into the ground. The Occupy crowd just don't want to hear this though.
Cronyism is a natural affect of human behavior . It's exploited significantly easier in a capitalist economy, not a mixed market economy. Then you throw in Corporatism, which is the direct result of too little regulation and there you have it.
Whose arguing that extreme? Neither of those are ideal.
And like you just said, size and scope.
We don't have true mixed market economy. We aren't using it in the right sectors or with the proper regulation. Our welfare system is horribly outdated and counterproductive.
I think capitalism is a wonderful idea but the world needs to be modernized first, or else, you will keep seeing this uneven distribution of wealth and prosperity. There is no reason for certain parts of America to resemble the third world or 1919, none, and yet the 1% gained wealth since the recession? Crazy.
It's unevenly distributed. You have places like San Fran and NYC that are modern but the whole bible belt is a century behind. I believe social programs are the catalyst to spur modernization, far more efficient than letting the market decide. Corporations have no obligation to improve on their innovations most times. Google has shown that with their whole "free fiber optic Internet campaign." As soon as they went around giving whole cities the best Internet in the world, all of the telecoms suddenly came out with new "faster Internet" at "cheaper prices." And I am sure, Google, as a corporation, has sinister plans for wanting to own whole cities Internet infrastructure, even if it is a net positive at the moment. The doors have been closed in America for true competition to spur innovation and prosperity for a long time, we need to reinvent ourselves and modernize.
99% of the assumptions made on HL about the "free" market are based on a model centrally controlled by the state and not even relevant to a "free market"
I must applaud the state for its success in convincing so many bright people that big business is at fault and not the gov.
And it's government that is needed to protect them.
I must applaud the state for its success in convincing so many bright people that big business is at fault and not the gov. And it's government that is needed to protect them.Taft. FDR. Clinton. Jefferson. Lincoln. Washington.
These our are greatest presidents and by no accident
Big biz is at fault. We don't need government to protect us but we do need them to reinvent the system so it can become autonomous. We can all clearly see the loopholes and abuses of the system because it's built on 200 year old principles. Big biz can be good but it can't just be about profits, there has to be some sort of social/altruistic value tied to a company's worth.
These our are greatest presidents and by no accident
99% of the assumptions made on HL about the "free" market are based on a model centrally controlled by the state and not even relevant to a "free market"
Big biz is at fault. We don't need government to protect us but we do need them to reinvent the system so it can become autonomous. We can all clearly see the loopholes and abuses of the system because it's built on 200 year old principles. Big biz can be good but it can't just be about profits, there has to be some sort of social/altruistic value tied to a company's worth.