SOHH... Our crumbling infrastructure strikes again: Tallest US dam collapsing in California

[newworldafro]

We spent trillions the last 15 years chasing..... *cough*... executively produced bad guys



So wonder why we can't take care of infrastructure.

 

[Mowgli]

Something like this happening makes no sense.

Someone is definitely fired

 

[88m3]

So a bomb just gets lost for almost 80 years ??

Happens pretty often still from WWII and even WWI. Millions of bombs were dropped some didn't explode on impact.

Number of bombs the allies dropped during WWII 3.4 million tons

Total average amount of bombs dropped by the allies each month during WWII 27,770 tons

World War II Statistics

 

[WaveMolecules]

He was right. We do have a crumbling infrastructure. I just drove 33 hours across the country. The roads are dogshyt. Dams are breaking. Bridges are collapsing. Airports are dilapidated.

Let's say it together... he. is. right.

He was 100% right about the infrastructure. It's been shytty for years.


Guess who obstructed shyt getting done

Obama Calls for Infrastructure Spending — for the Fifth Time in Five Years

"Though that's not Obama's fault. It's Congress's fault. Only Congress can approve the creation of such an entity, (agency and bank specifically for Infrastructure) much less authorize $21 billion in spending. And besides one fit of generosity in 2009, they've been reticent to do so since."

Republicans

 

[newworldafro]

Bay Area first to have a dam break in 2017 @Ronnie Lott

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Bay Area first to have a dam break in 2017 @Ronnie Lott

shyt is wild bro. I was watchin the news on Sunday night and they were evacuating entire counties up north Even the jails up there

 

[MenacingMonk]

Brehs, they were warned of this years ago and didn't do shyt. All these stupid, corrupt politicians said was, "it hasn't happened yet."

 

[hashmander]

He was 100% right about the infrastructure. It's been shytty for years.


Guess who obstructed shyt getting done

Obama Calls for Infrastructure Spending — for the Fifth Time in Five Years

"Though that's not Obama's fault. It's Congress's fault. Only Congress can approve the creation of such an entity, (agency and bank specifically for Infrastructure) much less authorize $21 billion in spending. And besides one fit of generosity in 2009, they've been reticent to do so since."

Republicans

and that fit of generosity (the stimulus) helped bring about the republican wave in 2010 and the post census gerrymandering that has the vast majority of republicans in safe seats where they don't have to worry about losing to a democrat and can go as far to the right as they want to stave off being primaried.

 

[无名的]

He was 100% right about the infrastructure. It's been shytty for years.


Guess who obstructed shyt getting done

Obama Calls for Infrastructure Spending — for the Fifth Time in Five Years

"Though that's not Obama's fault. It's Congress's fault. Only Congress can approve the creation of such an entity, (agency and bank specifically for Infrastructure) much less authorize $21 billion in spending. And besides one fit of generosity in 2009, they've been reticent to do so since."

Republicans

And Obama was right too. The status quo politicians on both sides are worthless.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

So is the governor going to ask for federal help or be a stubborn piece of shyt

God damn you're an idiot


California Asked Trump For Federal Disaster Aid. His Response Is SHOCKING

Governor Jerry Brown sent a request on February 10 to the White House, asking the Donald Trump Administration to issue a Presidential Major Disaster Declaration.

Three days later, Trump still hasn’t responded, according to CBS SF Bay Area News.

According to the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), “A major disaster declaration provides a wide range of federal assistance programs for individuals and public infrastructure, including funds for both emergency and permanent work.” It can only be issued when the disaster could overwhelm local and state capacities to respond.



While the White House has remained silent, refusing to approve FEMA aid for California, Brown deployed the California National Guard on February 12. There is still no word from the White House on whether they will do anything to prevent or manage the imminent disaster.

The funds were originally requested to help clean up the state after torrential rains caused $162 million in damages, but the impending disaster in Oroville adds a new level of urgency to the request.

Trump promptly responded to a similar request by Oregon in December.

California Asked Trump For Federal Disaster Aid. His Response Is SHOCKING

 

[hashmander]

why do these trumpset retards think a governor would be too embarrassed to ask the federal govt for money they are entitled to? it's not trump's money. california is a donor state. if they need disaster relief funds they aren't going with hat in hand, they're just requesting money that's owed to them in a disaster. it's even owed to welfare red states.

 

[Chrishaune]

There's only so much you can do when you keep building and have to upkeep old structures along with the newer ones......That's happening all over the U.S. I see older roads that used to be kept up well when I was younger now deteriorating because newer roads are being built and there's not enough money or manpower to go around.

Probably need to look at how the Romans concrete structures have lasted through centuries and ours start crumbling within 100 years. Start adding volcanic ash to some of the major structures.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

California 'bombogenesis', biggest storm in years, kills two - BBC News


They're fukked

 

[tru_m.a.c]

California Dam Crisis Could Have Been Averted
A dismissed lawsuit to strengthen the dam because of climate change effects predicted catastrophic flooding

The menacing floodwaters last week forced the emergency evacuation of 188,000 residents. Yet the impending disaster came as no surprise to officials in Butte and Plumas counties. The rural counties, which surround Lake Oroville, had challenged the state’s environmental review of dam operations in a 2008 lawsuit, arguing the state "recklessly failed" to properly account for climate change in its long-term dam management plan.

The dam was built in the 1960s when temperatures were cooler and more precipitation was stored in a greater snowpack in the mountains of the Feather River watershed, which drains into Lake Oroville. Today warming temperatures are bringing more rain as well as melting the Sierra Nevada snowpack earlier in the spring. As the counties’ attorneys predicted, among the results is a rush of downhill water much faster than in the past. “We anticipated that this crisis might come about,” says Tony Rossmann, special counsel to Butte County.

That's exactly what happened a week ago, leading to the crater. With the reservoir brimming over from rain and rapid snowmelt, and the spillway maxed out as the crater widened, officials activated Oroville’s never-used unpaved emergency spillway—a broad hillside a short distance from the spillway along the same dam wall. The combination of rocks, trees and floodwaters pummeling down toward the cities below the dam forced the mandatory evacuations. Hard rain is happening again today as new storms continue to deluge the area 150 miles north of San Francisco.

Most of the nation’s 84,000 dams were built between 1950 and 1980 and were not designed for the populations now surrounding them, or for today’s changing climate. Nearly 3,000 have no emergency plans, a 2013 engineering report found.

Rossmann said dam managers throughout the West should be updating their scientific data to avoid crises similar to Oroville. “It’s irrational and risky to operate without considering modern” climate trends and the changes they could create in rainfall, snowpack, runoff and flooding, he says.

California Dam Crisis Could Have Been Averted

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Nationwide, the federal government has invested relatively little in dams and levees. The 2009 stimulus bill provided $290 million for flood-prevention projects and another $490 million for repairing infrastructure projects, including dams, on Native American reservations—drops-in-the-bucket figures given the size of the recovery bill. The federal government spends at least as much on flood recovery as it does on flood prevention.

Just before President Donald Trump’s inauguration, President Barack Obama managed to attach his name to a major water infrastructure spending initiative. In December, Obama signed the Water Infrastructure Improvements for the Nation Act into law, authorizing hundreds of millions of dollars for water infrastructure projects around the country. The bill further enables the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to pursue certain prescribed projects, including the construction of levees in the Sacramento River floodplain (which entails the Feather River).

One provision under the bill that may pertain to the Oroville Dam is a section that calls on the administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency to establish a grant program for identifying and rehabilitating “high hazard potential dams.” FEMA has an enormous opportunity to put this power to use. Of the nation’s 87,359 dams (as of 2013), about 17 percent (14,726 dams) are classified as high hazard potential—meaning that failure would result in loss of human life.

The Oroville Dam Crisis Exposes the Flaws in Trump's Infrastructure Plan