Someone's GOAT (NOT MINE) got whooped in a first round series after getting gifted a top 5 player in the league

Is Bron getting another ring as a 1st or 2nd option?

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Our game plan was very calculated. We knew we were going to play Shaq straight-up. We knew there was no way we could stop Shaq straight-up. And there was also no way we could stop Kobe straight-up. But, if we’re going to play Shaq straight-up, [the Lakers'] eyes are going to get big, which means they’re going to keep throwing it down there. We’re telling Ben the whole time, "Take fouls when you need to, but don’t get yourself into foul trouble. You need to give up a layup, cool, we’re going to get what we want on the other side." But what’s going to happen is Mr. Bryant is going to get a little discouraged with getting no touches and now the second half comes around…now he’s pressing. He’s going to start coming down and just breaking the offense. When you do that, you’re done—you’re playing right into our hands. Even if you start making those shots, you’re finished.

• ⁠Chauncey Billups


Kobe broke the offense. Imagine trying to make it sound like a good thing Kobe was considered the weakness of the team :laff:
Mamba mentality is a positive pr spin on low iq shot chucking basketball
 

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Kobe was the ONLY reason the Lakers even made the Finals during that West playoff run.
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On the other hand, Bron choked against the Mavs who had one superstar who was 32 vs his 3 superstars who were all in their 20s (one of them being his best friend), scored 8 points in one game for really no fukking reason, made fun of Dirk during the series insinuating he was faking a sickness, and was the 3rd leading scorer on his team while they blew a 2-1 lead.

LOL @ your NY ass falling for Klutch propaganda.

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Didn’t that 32 year old superstar beat the fukk out of yall 4-0 with Kobe only being the leading scorer in 1 game and scoring 17 points in game 4 with Jason Terry scoring 32 and JJ Barea scoring 22?


JJ Barea was ass right? So what’s that make Kobe :mjgrin:
 

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No it wasn’t lol. I watched all 17 clanks. About 1/3rd were with help defense the rest were straight up bricking shots. The audacity of you to claim Kobe was being double and triple team when it was just standard defense against a ball hog scorer :mjlol:The Pistons would send a late help defender sometimes. Most of the time it was literally Kobe dribbling into help defense or along the baseline. Of course you’re going to fukking trap him. :skip:


To be fair to Kobe by 2009 he had become a much better passer and would see help defense coming and make the right pass. Here though? My lordt :russ:

Nobody cares about yall made up stats :laff:if he was getting double teamed like that why didn’t he average 15 assists per game. fukk outta here.


I remember during the Olympics in 2008 and LeBron had to snitch on his shytty offense to Coach K.


Jesus could you imagine him without he structure of the triangle?



THE AUDACITY... PRIME KOBE WOULD AVERAGE 45 PPG IN A FREE FLOWING OFFENSE

U DONT KNOW BASKETBALL .... LIKE AT ALL

THE BALL DENIAL OF KOBE WAS NEXT LEVEL.. THE HELP DEFENSE ON KOBE WAS NEXT LEVEL.. THE DOUBLE N TRIPLE TEAMING WAS SUFFOCATING.. THE FUNNELING TOWARDS WEAKSIDE WAS STRATEGIC AND EFFECTIVE..

NOT THAT I BELIEVE U EVER SAW THE SERIES... U PULLIN UP RANDOM HIGHLIGHT VIDEOS TO TRY N DISPROVE WHATS WELL KNOWN .. I SHOWED U A BREAKDOWN OF THOSE SAME HIGHLIGHTS U POSTED WHERE IT DETAILED ALL THE HELP THAT KEYED IN ON KOBE.. THOSE SAME PLAYS UR CASUAL MIND BELIEVED WAS "SINGLE COVERAGE" LOL..

THEY PLAYED JORDAN RULES STYLE D ON KOBE AND EVEN WORSE CONSIDERING ZONE WASNT ALLOWED IN MJ DAYS...

AGAIN, THERE ARE BOOKS WRITTEN ABOUT THIS WIT FULL ACCOUNTS... GO READ MADMENS BALL

IT WAS SO BAD THAT MARK CUBAN COMPLAINED TO THE LEAGUE THAT PISTONS PLAYED KOBE TOO TOUGH AND THAT ALL THOSE BUMPS SHOULD BE CALLED FOUL

:mjlol:



U DENYIN WELL KNOWN FACTS NOT REALLY HELPIN U OUT HERE.. HERE WE CAN SEE THE ANNOUNCERS LITERALLY CALLIN IN "THE KOBE RULES" IN REAL TIME

TRY AGAIN
 

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Breh first of all I'm from Jersey
Second of all we are all aware of Lebron's shortcomings and when he choked or whatever..shyt happens to the best of em
But I've learned new information in this thread that makes Kobes' Legacy look not so good but most LeBron fans don't hate Kobe to begin with but now nikkas is exposing your goat and his shortcomings and it's making y'all his loudmouth stans look real bad ...like just shut the fukk up...
The nikka plays for your team but you take every opportunity to drag the nikka thru the mud ...yall sound insane and obsessed


THE FACT THAT U LEARNIN NEW INFORMATION ABOUT THE INFAMOUS 2004 CATASTROPHE IN 2025 IS HILARIOUS

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Didn’t that 32 year old superstar beat the fukk out of yall 4-0 with Kobe only being the leading scorer in 1 game and scoring 17 points in game 4 with Jason Terry scoring 32 and JJ Barea scoring 22?


JJ Barea was ass right? So what’s that make Kobe :mjgrin:


A CENTER SHOOTS A BETTER PERCENTAGE THAN A GUARD! STOP THE PRESSES!!!!

IN 2004:

KOBE AVERAGED 24 PPG IN ROUND 1
SHAQ AVERAGED 16 PPG IN ROUND 1

KOBE AVERAGED 26 PPG IN ROUND 2
SHAQ AVERAGED 22 PPG IN ROUND 2

KOBE AVERAGED 24 PPG IN ROUND 3
SHAQ AVERAGED 20 PPG IN ROUND 3


IT WASNT BY ACCIDENT THAT PISTONS FOCUSED THEIR ENTIRE DEFENSE ON KOBE
 

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THE AUDACITY... PRIME KOBE WOULD AVERAGE 45 PPG IN A FREE FLOWING OFFENSE

:laff: :dead: :dead:

THE BALL DENIAL OF KOBE WAS NEXT LEVEL.. THE HELP DEFENSE ON KOBE WAS NEXT LEVEL.. THE DOUBLE N TRIPLE TEAMING WAS SUFFOCATING.. THE FUNNELING TOWARDS WEAKSIDE WAS STRATEGIC AND EFFECTIVE..

Let’s go through the tape



:08 Kobe goes left, there’s a trailing Pistons defender but doesn’t effect the shot. Brick

:13 Kobe takes a three and it’s a brick. No double team

:28 straight up man to man D. Brick

:42 Rip is shading but no Double team. Make

1:26 Kobe drives left, looks like he’s going to the basket and has Rip beat, Tayshaun threatens to come out, Kobe pulls up, make. No double team.

1:40 Kobe runs over a screen by Shaq. Brick. No double team.

1:55 Kobe runs through a screen. One on one with Tayshaun. Brick.


2:06 Kobe drives to the lane, pulls up and Bricks. No double team.


:skip::skip: Do I have to keep going.


@murksiderock You’re pretty, impartial. Am I missing something?

THEY PLAYED JORDAN RULES STYLE D ON KOBE AND EVEN WORSE CONSIDERING ZONE WASNT ALLOWED IN MJ DAYS...
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Bron "Stans" are more aligned with objective heads than anybody else's "stans"...

Never in NBA history has anybody cared if you won your rings with one team or multiple teams....until it came to LeBron.

Never in NBA history did mf's put more weight on Finals losses, than Finals wins, until LeBron. Never in NBA history did mf's look at getting to the NBA Finals and losing, as a lesser feat, than losing before the NBA Finals....until LeBron.

Mf's always understood it's a game where you can lose if the other team is better...until LeBron.

Kobe has 5 rings but won only two of them as a #1. And I'm using "only" facestiously, because that's not an easy feat. The NBA has been around for 79 years, and only 16 guys have been the best player on more than one championship team:

(8) Bill (8-1)

(6) Mike (6-0)

(5) Mikan (5-0)

(4) LeBron (4-6), Duncan (4-0)

(3) Kareem (3-3), Magic (3-2), Bird (3-2), Shaq (3-1)

(2) Wilt (2-4), Kobe (2-2), KD (2-2), Hakeem (2-1), Steph (2-1), Zeke (2-1), Cowens (2-0)

It's a major accomplishment, and Kobe's being in that class, is a huge reason why he's a Top 10 player ever. But of those 16 guys, 9 guys have 3+ championships as the best player on a title team. Neither Steph nor Kobe are in that category and they are typically ranked accordingly...

If Steph ends his career with more rings than LeBron, we'll salute him. Nothing Steph does is any threat whatsoever to LeBron's career, and with him already in Y16, it's virtually impossible he'll match LeBron's chips as a #1, let alone surpass it...

Steph's legacy stands on its own merits (as did Kobe's), it's only threatening to LeBron by you nikkas who don't appreciate Bron 😂


KOBE WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN 2001 AND 2002

SHAQ SIMPLY HAD SENIORITY AND FEASTED ON THE INFERIOR LEASTERN CONFERENCE CENTERS IN THE FINALS IN A CONCENTRATED EFFORT TO WIN FINALS MVP

THE PLAYOFFS IS WHERE THE REAL FINALS TOOK PLACE OUT WEST, AND KOBE WAS SUPERIOR
 

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Let’s go through the tape

:08 Kobe goes left, there’s a trailing Pistons defender but doesn’t effect the shot. Brick

:13 Kobe takes a three and it’s a brick. No double team

:28 straight up man to man D. Brick

:42 Rip is shading but no Double team. Make

1:26 Kobe drives left, looks like he’s going to the basket and has Rip beat, Tayshaun threatens to come out, Kobe pulls up, make. No double team.

1:40 Kobe runs over a screen by Shaq. Brick. No double team.

1:55 Kobe runs through a screen. One on one with Tayshaun. Brick.


2:06 Kobe drives to the lane, pulls up and Bricks. No double team.


:skip::skip: Do I have to keep going.


@murksiderock You’re pretty, impartial. Am I missing something?


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I LITERALLY JUST POSTED A VIDEO WITH THE ANNOUNCERS CALLING IT "THE KOBE RULES" IN REAL TIME N U STILL GOT THE NERVE TO TRY N LAUGH IT OFF LIKE THE CASUAL U ARE

GO LOOK UP HOW MARK CUBAN CRIED TO THE LEAGUE THAT THE DEFENSE PISTONS WERE PLAYIN ON KOBE SHOULD BE ILLEGAL

AND THE LEAGUE CHANGED THE RULES BECAUSE OF IT

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MORE NEW INFO FOR U CASUALS
 

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40% to 60% :laff: no that’s not true

For instance in the 2005 playoffs Duncan shot 46% and Manu shot 50%

DUNCAN IS A PF WHO OPERATED A GOOD PORTION OF HIS GAME FROM THE MIDRANGE

THIS IS MORE LIKE SAYING DIKEMBE MUTOMBO WAS SUPERIOR TO IVERSON IN 2001 BECAUSE HE SHOT 60% COMPARED TO IVERSONS 40%

CASUAL TYPE STUFF
 

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"it's good to play with the best player in the world on your team because he makes stuff a lot easy."

-SHAQ IN 2001 AFTER SPURS SERIES
 

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I LITERALLY JUST POSTED A VIDEO WITH THE ANNOUNCERS CALLING IT "THE KOBE RULES" IN REAL TIME N U STILL GOT THE NERVE TO TRY N LAUGH IT OFF LIKE THE CASUAL U ARE

GO LOOK UP HOW MARK CUBAN CRIED TO THE LEAGUE THAT THE DEFENSE PISTONS WERE PLAYIN ON KOBE SHOULD BE ILLEGAL

AND THE LEAGUE CHANGED THE RULES BECAUSE OF IT

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MORE NEW INFO FOR U CASUALS
3:12 Kobe takes a long three. Brick no double team.

3:40 Kobe faces up on Tayshaun alone. Brick

3:51 Kobe catches the call in the post. Piston send a late weakside help defender but Kobe hits a turn around before it gets there. Good play.

4:04 Kobe runs a hand off with Shaq. Brick. No double team.

4:19 Kobe tries an up and under and gets blocked.

4:36 Kobe goes over a screen Bricks a three.


Btw can you show me the physical Pistons D? These are all bricked jumpers. :skip:

 

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3:12 Kobe takes a long three. Brick no double team.

3:40 Kobe faces up on Tayshaun alone. Brick

3:51 Kobe catches the call in the post. Piston send a late weakside help defender but Kobe hits a turn around before it gets there. Good play.

4:04 Kobe runs a hand off with Shaq. Brick. No double team.

4:19 Kobe tries an up and under and gets blocked.

4:36 Kobe goes over a screen Bricks a three.


Btw can you show me the physical Pistons D? These are all bricked jumpers. :skip:




U TRYIN HARDER THAN IVE EVER SEEN SOME1 TRY

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DUNCAN IS A PF WHO OPERATED A GOOD PORTION OF HIS GAME FROM THE MIDRANGE

THIS IS MORE LIKE SAYING DIKEMBE MUTOMBO WAS SUPERIOR TO IVERSON IN 2001 BECAUSE HE SHOT 60% COMPARED TO IVERSONS 40%

CASUAL TYPE STUFF
2006 NBA finals

Dwade 57% TS
Shaq 53% TS

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