Sons of Rich Blacks Fare No Better than Working Class White Sons - but different finding for Women

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Against my better judgement I went to see what they were saying over on st0rmfr0nt Alley aka LSA
Sons of Rich Black Families Fare No Better Than Sons of Working-Class Whites

I'm just going to say if anyone EVER tries to insinuate that the Coli and LSA are mirror reflections of each other should be slapped in the mouth:hhh:

Look at the conversation happening over at LSA compared to this thread:francis:

These broads hate black men so much they are "juelzing" their assess off to deflect that under a system of white supremacy, they are viewed as LESS of a threat and are allowed to have a little bit of success comparable to white women.:mjlol:

They are blaming black men themselves saying they don't have the innate drive that black women have on some EUGENICS shyt! They are blaming Black parents saying that boys are coddled while black girls are drilled:stopitslime:.
They are talking about how they need to "divest" b/c black men just don't have what it takes. :sas1:

They won't accept that white people don't feel the need to put their foot on their neck like they do Black men...I wonder why:sas2:
Only on The Coli are black Women comparable to white women and all of a sudden.. sexism, which isn’t shyt but racism in gender form, doesn’t exist.

Y’all are men. Y’all dont experience sexism no more than whites experience racism. Get upset if you want to but y’all gotta log off sometime


And can somebody explain to me how clowning dudes for not having a roster (and don’t say y’all joking cuz if so that’s the longest running jokje on here) then complain about single father homes? Someone who can articulate himself and do more than insult. How do y’all expect people to understand your plight? I’d like an intelligent answer to my question
 

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Only on The Coli are black Women comparable to white women and all of a sudden.. sexism, which isn’t shyt but racism in gender form, doesn’t exist.

Y’all are men. Y’all dont experience sexism no more than whites experience racism. Get upset if you want to but y’all gotta log off sometime
I don’t think any rational person is saying sexism doesn’t exist........but something gendered is clearly happening here that black women aren’t being affected as much by
 

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Only on The Coli are black Women comparable to white women and all of a sudden.. sexism, which isn’t shyt but racism in gender form, doesn’t exist.

Y’all are men. Y’all dont experience sexism no more than whites experience racism. Get upset if you want to but y’all gotta log off sometime


And can somebody explain to me how clowning dudes for not having a roster (and don’t say y’all joking cuz if so that’s the longest running jokje on here) then complain about single father homes? Someone who can articulate himself and do more than insult. How do y’all expect people to understand your plight? I’d like an intelligent answer to my question
It's just like LSA, the gender who you represent will feel the pain a lot more. In America, what BM really need, BW get more of, what BW really need, BM get more of.

BW aren't really worried about BM pain on avg on LSA. BM here can give two shyts about sexism. We tend to be self conscious but not race conscious
 
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Only on The Coli are black Women comparable to white women and all of a sudden.. sexism, which isn’t shyt but racism in gender form, doesn’t exist.

Y’all are men. Y’all dont experience sexism no more than whites experience racism. Get upset if you want to but y’all gotta log off sometime


And can somebody explain to me how clowning dudes for not having a roster (and don’t say y’all joking cuz if so that’s the longest running jokje on here) then complain about single father homes? Someone who can articulate himself and do more than insult. How do y’all expect people to understand your plight? I’d like an intelligent answer to my question
I noticed you didn't address any of the white supremacist rhetoric expressed by the MAJORITY of Black women on that site.:francis:

When this study revealed the truth about "inter-sectionality" these women are busy denying it with racist talking points. :patrice:

The study literally points out that there is REVERSE sexism in this country for the Black community.:martin:

Tone and Yvette concurred on this point but y'all don't want to accept it b/c it goes against the prevailing narrative.:manny:

Who's really the "white man" of the Black community?
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It's just like LSA, the gender who you represent will feel the pain a lot more. In America, what BM really need, BW get more of, what BW really need, BM get more of.

BW aren't really worried about BM pain on avg on LSA. BM here can give two shyts about sexism. We tend to be self conscious but not race conscious

Makes sense but it’s absolutely outrageous to see posts saying black women benefit from being women in a society that considers women second class citizens.

And I’m not on LSA like that.


Men experience sexism?

Sexism is the systematic oppression of one gender over another.

Men have never been systematically oppressed. Women have never ruled over men. Men have never had women in charge of whether they receive schooling, or allowed to walk outside alone.

Racism is the systematic oppression of one race over another.

Whites have never experienced racism. Blacks have never ruled over whites in this society.

Whites and men cannot experience reverse anything until blacks and women have control.


I noticed you didn't address any of the white supremacist rhetoric expressed by the MAJORITY of Black women on that site.:francis:

When this study revealed the truth about "inter-sectionality" these women are busy denying it with racist talking points. :patrice:

The study literally points out that there is REVERSE sexism in this country for the Black community.:martin:

Tone and Yvette concurred on this point but y'all don't want to accept it b/c it goes against the prevailing narrative.:manny:

Who's really the "white man" of the Black community?
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Im not on LSA like that to know, sorry.
As far as sexism not affecting Black women...
We have the highest rates of domestic violence and sexual abuse..NO ONE GETS ABUSED MORE in this country but us. Reverse sexism would need for black women to have stake and power over black men in the system and we do not. I agree black men are more marginalized than black women because we don’t threaten patriarchy but while the white man may give us a job... we will be expected to work 10x harder and also put up with sexual remarks. No one wins in white supremacy. We need to see each others standpoint

How do y’all justify and encouraging men to sleep around with multiple women and then complain about the result... fatherless children?




REGARDLESS... I appreciate all 3 of you men for responding without insults and just using your words. A lot of dudes complain about women skipping these threads but look how many times I got negged for my PERSONAL OPINION. What woman in her right mind would come in this thread with a bunch of dudes who don’t appreciate different insights? That’s not a discussion that’s a circle jerk. You neg when someone is trolling not trying to learn more and telling you what they’ve seen and honestly believe. If y’all operate like that don’t say brehettes are avoiding threads like this because of fear when you know a female stepping foot in these threads is never gonna Be right unless she’s parroting exactly what y’all wanna hear. Y’all don’t want anything but to be automatically agreed with and a lot of y’all don’t posess the intelligence to communicate.

Furthermore.. a female poster told me to stay out of threads like these. I guess it’s common knowledge for the women on here to let y’all have these to yallselves if we don’t wanna be skinned, so much to the point they warn new incoming female posters in PM’s. But before I take heed and ignore these type of threads like I shoulve done in the first place.. I ask y’all... how will y’all ever gain knowledge and outright if you don’t hear opposing/differentiations of your opinions.

Comforting rhetoric >>>> actual discussions
 
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This the Internet bro I don’t care for points, I want discussion. I gave y’all my thoughts and I want y’alls.

Fatherlessness, sexual irresponsibility (both straight and gay men), erratic behavior (mostly environmental), etc. plague “our community”—and as this study sorta confirms this is across most income levels.

What’s your solutoon? Who’s to blame here? At some point, the “white man” deflection falls on deaf ears of everyone else, including many black women.
You're right internet points don't mean shyt. Rep indicates whether most people think you're full of shyt. It's short hand for whether people should ignore you off top.

You can't start your question about why Black people are in the condition they are in and add the caveat "..and don't blame the white man." That's some disingenuous bullshyt. You know why shyt is fukked up.

We know that Black boys are targeted from pre-school onward to be funneled into prison and less successful careers. White women teachers do not want to deal with black students especially boys.

I think a start can be with
  • End the war on drugs;
  • Enforce immigration laws;
  • Gender segregated classrooms;
  • Specific programs, internships, and apprenticeships targeted specifically to Black men; and
  • Recruit and pay Black male grade school teachers, and mentors.
 

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And I thoroughly answered all of them in my responses, and you continued to almost completely side step all of it and move the goal post afterwords.



What? Where did I say that? And please do directly quote me.

Seriously, I'm not trying to be funny or insulting, but you do really seem to have some major reading comprehension issues. You might want to calm down, collect yourself, go back, and re-read what I wrote to gain an actual understand, because right now it just seems you're pulling things you wish I said out from out no where in order to build some ad hoc argument ie a strawman.

The freedom of expression in this country is enshrined in the 1st amendment along with free speech. The nothing about the 2nd amendment right to bear arms infringes on that. You are allowed to express yourself by protesting, rallying, speaking openly, and publishing anything you want. In fact the 1st and 2nd amendment often go hand in hand with using one to defend the other as we see with the open carry protest(hpngc south dallas TX mosque counter protest or nbpp paris TX protest) or using the freedom of speech to defend the freedom to bear arms, as I'm doing now.



Ehh, no. Every so often there's a mass shooting or school shooting, which are statistically very rare, and account for very small amount of total deaths.

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And rifles(of which the ar-15 is a small subset) are only used in less than a QUARTER of all mass shootings and %3.4 of the firearm murders and %2.5 of the total homicides(knives, blunt objects and hands/feet account for more homicides).

And the fact that these fact that these kids are free to march up the down the streets protesting, regardless of how uninformed they are, proves their rights to freedom of expression are alive and well.



No, but, you're trying to limit my rights to bear arms based on what you arbitrarily think I need, based on what you arbitrarily consider to be a "military grade weapon", which is ridiculous to say the least.

And again, the common civilian AR-15 is not a 'military grade weapon'. It's not used by the military. It wasn't designed for use by the military, but specifically as a hunting and defense rifle. And while well made, isn't anywhere close to being the most power rifle even on the civilian market, seeing as it uses the same caliber rounds as a standard .22 handgun. It's just very VERY common, thus an easy target for scrutiny by the media and uninformed individuals.



Again, I already addressed your "need" argument, which I never made and specifically pointed out as being an illogical red herring.



And addressing the point about taking on a rouge government



^You can also add Hezbollah driving out the Israeli military in Lebanon in 2006 to that list.

Again goes back to reading comprehension.



Actually, you did.


http://www.thecoli.com/posts/28780747/
^^You



^^^See previous quotes addressing the "need" and "rouge government" point.



Actually, that's exactly what the 2nd amendment was originally written for. It guaranteed the rights of citizens(except enslaved and free blacks who weren't considered full citizens) to own ANY type of firearm, including the one's used by the military at the time. Only later would 'gun control' measure be put in place by federal acts and court cases to limit citizens second amendment rights- One of the earliest being those of the 'black codes' of the reconstruction era south.

And btw the "assault weapons" ban that you're referring to, was shown to have no discernible effect on lower gun violence or even mass shootings in the country when it was in place. And one of the reasons was because, like you don't for 'military grade', the congress didn't have a set definition for what it considered an "assault weapon", thus just came up with a ad hoc list of guns to be put on the ban list. The company that manufactured the ar-15 simply designed another model called the 'colt sporter' that essentially had the same specs to be sold for civilian use while the ban was in place.







The 2nd amendment doesn't restrict my access to any of those weapons. The National Firearm Act of 1934 does. There's nothing within the 2nd amendment itself that say I can't own an M16. If we repealed the 1934 NFA like we did with the 1994 AWB(technically expired) and kept the 2nd amendment, and I would be able to purchase and own all of those guns.




I don't see how we can continue to have this conversation if you insist on continuing to run away from the points being raised, and then moving the goal post.
I didn’t read past the first few paragraphs, then scrolled/skimmed down only to see that you’ve posted yet another 100,000 word blah blah essay that I’m not going to read. This “talk you to death” shyt just isn’t going to work. I could break your shyt down point by point as I usually do but I really do t have the time.

We can make this simple or you can just stop quoting me. This began with you claiming that your NRA right wing position on guns is really a tenet of liberalism. You’ve then went on and on and on and on and on in an attempt to reconcile that obvious contradiction.

I’m saying be consistent. If you think that it’s so necessary for people to have unlimited freedom to own any kind of firearm that they want for their protection/defense then why stop at firearms? Why shouldn’t you also fight for the right to own any kind of weapon that you want? You talk about hezbollah, Afghans, Bangladeshis, and all that, well that had access to more than firearms. They had the rockets, tanks, grenades, etc. They had all the military shyt to fight off the respective militaries trying to occupy them. You’re not even serious with it. You’re going to need a lot more than just firearms to hold off an America military or even a local police force. Even the police got robots to come blow your ass up.

Stop with the bullshyt and just keep it a buck. I’m not telling what you “need” the weapons for, I’ve asked. It’s just that so far the reasons that you’ve given haven’t added up.
 

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Makes sense but it’s absolutely outrageous to see posts saying black women benefit from being women in a society that considers women second class citizens.
They are being bitter. BM know BW aren't treated good in a system of white supremacy and BM know that they don't have the resources to provide for the community.
 
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They are being bitter. BM know BW aren't treated good in a system of white supremacy and BM know that they don't have the resources to provide for the community.
That’s why I said they gotta eventually log off.
Easy to be a crusader online. I actually mentor black kids.. as in volunteer for an organization in my city. I’m chillin on the insults. I’m going back to the Booth. I know my place now. Stick to what I even signed up for
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I care about y’all so I read up until the 6th page and someone said something too ignorant and impulsive to keep on.

This a male site so I’m sure a lot of these responses are just venting but when you go back into the real world.. you want a son because you know he won’t have it as hard as a daughter. You know people won’t be out to hurt him for no reason like they would your daughter. You as a man will rest your head and go to sleep knowing your son is out with his friends but will not do so with your daughter because you know people are looking to hurt her. You know.

I’m also not going to pretend by the 3rd page I didn’t see over 5 separate males that advocated black men being promiscuous with as many women as possible in this thread complaining about single fatherhood and boys not having their male parent. Condemning the same thing you were campaigning for just yesterday and using big words and links like 24 hours ago your responses werent ‘I got 5 bytches on the roster’. ‘She won’t let me fukk so she getting bushed’.

Cognitive dissonance - Wikipedia


In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort (psychological stress) experienced by a person who simultaneously holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values. The occurrence of cognitive dissonance is a consequence of a person performing an action that contradicts personal beliefs, ideals, and values; and also occurs when confronted with new information that contradicts said beliefs, ideals, and values.[1][2]



But like I said.. this is y’all thread. Maybe lll pick back up in the morning and try to weed out the outlandish responses to try to gain some insight.
You didn’t say anything of substance for me to respond to. The part in bold was an absolute insult to not only black men, but intelligence as a whole. With all of the information readily available about how terrible the black male plight is, for you to post that bullshyt only adds insult to injury. Either you’re stupid, or just cruel.
 

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Makes sense but it’s absolutely outrageous to see posts saying black women benefit from being women in a society that considers women second class citizens.

And I’m not on LSA.



Men experience sexism?

Sexism is the systematic oppression of one gender over another.

Men have never been systematically oppressed. Women have never ruled over men. Men have never had women in charge of whether they receive schooling, or allowed to walk outside alone.

Racism is the systematic oppression of one race over another.

Whites have never experienced racism. Blacks have never ruled over whites in this society.

Whites and men cannot experience reverse anything until blacks and women have control.



Im not on LSA like that to know, sorry.
As far as sexism not affecting Black women...
We have the highest rates of domestic violence and sexual abuse..NO ONE GETS ABUSED MORE in this country but us. Reverse sexism would need for black women to have stake and power over black men in the system and we do not. I agree black men are more marginalized than black women because we don’t threaten patriarchy but while the white man may give us a job... we will be expected to work 10x harder and also put up with sexual remarks. No one wins in white supremacy. We need to see each others standpoint

How do y’all justify and encouraging men to sleep around with multiple women and then complain about the result... fatherless children?
How did you type that sentence in red as a BW ?:stopitslime: Black men have never been systematically oppressed?

The subject of my post was about the racist rhetoric of a site comprised of a majority of BW and how it angers black feminists when the truth was revealed about how white people work harder to keep BM down than BW. You've erected a straw-man argument.

And you claiming not to know that much about LSA is :duck::mjlol: You sound just like those women on the site.
 

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This is why I always rock for suburban black folk on this forum and hood black folk

Seems like everyone including other black folk from different upbringings views us as soft, weak, silver spoon ass nikkas, with a promise for a bright future.

shyt really ain’t the case. Our lives weren’t as hard, true, but financially even if we live in “nicer areas” we are all statistically paycheck to paycheck, no wealth and still viewed the same ways by other races.

These type of studies should help bridge the gap in that thinking. We’re all in this together, same battle. We gotta work together
 

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This guy chimes in

This guy is making the same bullshyt argument that the BW over at LSA are making. He acknowledges all of the of the evidence in the study but then disregards the conclusion of the researchers who gather the evidence b/c it doesn't fit his existing world view.

To him, Black people (especially Black men) make poor choices and it isn't racism that causes the difference in outcome for BM.

He's trying to ease his cognitive dissonance by inserting his own conclusion just like Black feminists.

He only wants to accept the parts of the study at face value that support his pre-existing racism. He's fine with the parts that contradict inter-sectionality.

He gloms on to the parts of the study that show young BM getting involved in criminality but he won't tell his audience that the mistreatment of Black boys (by teachers who don't like them) in school leads to them dropping out and getting involved in criminality.

Why does that MF'er talk so fast? This is supposed to be the cool kid's conservative? FOH:childplease:
 
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