not elzhi man
Sooo...fans are about to hit Elzhi with a lawsuit for taking their money
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not elzhi man
name 3 examples of harder tracks. Gotta be new school. From 2011 to present.
Don't repeat yourself or you go into parrot status.
Pedestrian implies "typical". "usual". Which is silly as fukk to me considering that Rocky was rapping on weird ass niche shyt, so obviously his flow can't be pedestrian or else he wouldn't fit on the beat. We all know the generic turn-up flow that nikkas do. That's pedestrian. Give an example of 'Rocky pedestrian cliche' flow anywhere on the great Live.Love.ASAP tracks. Then show how someone else in the new school prior to him uses similar or exact flow.
Thank you.
We're talking about Rocky, period. Use examples related to what he actually does, not some space bullshyt you pull out your ass.
Music/film and artistic works thrive on people doing new shyt. Hip hop especially is about being fresh, period.
You saying Rocky didn't do anything new or special is
In the last 5-10 years, have you seen an album artist come out the gate outta nowhere with no cosigns and become one of the top rappers based on their very first mixtape? And are still relevant 4 years later? You really think he did that without releasing any special music on his mixtape? What planet are you on?
Elzhi raps a tad faster than your average emcee imo. Not super fast obviously. And more importantly, he barely takes pauses. Nerds love that bar-after-bar relentless shyt.
Listen to this:
LOL at Elzhi having a better delivery than Rocky. How's that possible when Rocky has way more charisma and personality than him?
WHEN THE EAST IS IN THE HOUSE
Wake me up when someone decides to sample an Elzhi line. Saying Jeru lacked energy, especially on his first two albums, is ludicrous.
Then you're NOT gonna have a better flow than people who actually have emotion. Personality/emotion is HUGE in hip hop. It's the biggest part of what we call "flow". Even stoic cats like Rakim and Nas have a ton of personality. It's a different kind of personality but it's personality nonetheless. Instead of beating you over the head with emotion like a DMX/KRS, they hit you with that stoic, observant godlike aura.
Elzhi has none of this. and until he finds some personality, Rocky will outflow him every time.
a) what does that even mean
and b) do you have receipts?
This is the thing about you: you just toss out statements like this and don't elaborate. I'm looking at you like
Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about with any of this but I'm not your friend so I don't care enough about you being incorrect to continuously go back and forth with you. I'll just address some direct questions and finish this. You don't even know what flow means. It has nothing to do with personality. You're arguing from ignorance. You don't know much about what goes into making music or the definition of the individual elements of rap. You're confusing flow with cadence, delivery with energy. You're all over the place my nikka. You're entitled to have your personal beliefs (I can't tell you to enjoy Elzhi more than Rocky) but I can tell you from a technical perspective ASAP is mediocre rapper that has no stand out attribute. He's not actively bad, but if we're grading, he'd be a C- in every category of rap. That might be your thing though. Elzhi is an incredible rapper who is pretty much good to great at every aspect of rapping. His main flaw is lack of emotion.
nikka I can literally pick any 3 random beats and they'll be harder: Don't Like, Nightmare on Figg Street, Real nikka. That's easily off the top of the dome.
Perfecting multi syllabic rhyming means you do it with no flaws. Pretty simple. He can craft rhymes that make complete sense. Rhyming multis isn't that hard if you make up words that don't mean anything together. "Rap beef, black streets, clap heat, Fat Beats". But he actually does it while talking to you or telling a story.
Anyway I'm done with this discussion, there's literally no reason to write me back because I won't read it. Have a good day tho.
spliz
SplizThaDon
nikka first off u didn't "check" shyt and anyone could check the thread and see that. U didn't correct me a bunch of times either. I forgot Alchemist didn't produce ONE beat and now u think u got some kind of victory? nikka I been posting accurate info 95 percent of the time all the way back since sohh I'm human I'm liable to have a mental slip up on a fact here n there. But I literally had to break shyt down to u like a little kid so u could know where the conversation was going. So cut the bullshyt u never "checked" anybody u just came in the Nas thread wit ur delusional thoughts and negative energy and I called u out on it. Don't be a fukkin idiot and front like people can't cant just go back and check the thread for themselves. I slipped up and credited him for Self Conscience. One beat out of the plethora of beats I listed. On top of that u missed the whole point anyway. And I'm not even gonna entertain that ASAP Rocky shyt.How is that a terrible opinion? I have given receipt after receipt to demonstrate why Rocky is a better rapper than Elzhi.
Meanwhile, you guys just post gifs and say 'terrible opinion' but never elaborate. And I'm the one that doesn't know shyt?
This is the problem with hip hop. Fake ass, fake-deep "real hip hop" fans who like music based off name recognition, branding and association instead of analyzing the music for what it is. Ironically, they're dikkriders in the same way that pop casual fans dikkride.
I'm the only one in this debate posting receipts. naming specific tracks. From BOTH dudes catalogs. And good examples of what people consider their best or memorable shyt.
Y'all don't even know Rocky's catalog, what fans consider to be his best shyt and why... You just saw a dress on 106 and Park and thought: 'he can't rap! He's not using lots of multis'
And you of all people should know better. I checked your ass in the Nas thread and caught you slippin numerous times when we were debating Alchemist. Here you were debating Alchemist and giving him credit for tracks he didn't doAnd I had to correct you a number of times in that debate.
yet again, I have the terrible opinion.
Grand Conde
Superstar
Smart business
Its fukking braindead business. Dude just shyt on his fanbase and his reputation for...40k. What is 40k nowadays? You can live comfortable on that for a year, thats it.
Basically he made money short term while losing it long term.
Abstract83
Superstar
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This the Elzhi supporters? Anyone of y'all give this nikka money?
Collect your L here (don't even ask me how)
Abstract83
Superstar
Elzhi is
The Nas of Detroit. Ima keep saying it.
Actually, what you're doing is copping out of debate like a weak bytch. You're not fooling anybody. At the end of the day, you don't like being challenged and you find ways to duck.
ramble ramble ramble
OK, fine. Let's say I'm confused. Then define what you mean by cadence and energy and how I'm being confused. Oh that's right - in typical FreshAIG fashion, you just toss out whatever bullshyt comes to your mind and don't elaborate.
technical what? Hip hop fans misuse the word "technical" so much it's hilarious.
And besides, NO ONE but a couple of myopic fans care about technical shyt. This is obvious after 40 plus years of hip hop. We're not robots. We're human beings with passions, emotions, etc. Technique serves vision and passion. So if you don't have vision and passion in the first place, which is what defines a great artist, no one cares about your technique.
Now you're picking shyt at random?
Dont Like is NOT harder than Pretty Flacko. Don't Like has a fairly-hard beat but Keef's delivery just aint aggressive like that. Keef's delivery has always been on that apathetic shyt. Are y'all even paying attention?
Nightmare on Figg Street is a hard track. Schoolboy's voice is annoying at times and doesn't command authority, which lessens the hardness. But sure, lemme give you that.
Don't ever in your life mention a Troy Ave track when you're talking to me
That dude's voice is lighter than a baby sleeping.You're just mesmerized by nikkas holding imaginary guns and posing in videos. ASAP Rocky's best songs don't have music videos. LOL at "Real nikka" being harder than Pretty Flacko or Brand New Guy.
Yet here you are with no examples. You just expect me to accept what you're saying.
Like a coward.
Read or don't read - who gives a fukk? This will be educational for anyone else who stumbles on this thread. I'm not new to this. I know cats like you who duck convo all the time. Y'all don't know shyt, pretend to know shyt and when pressed for receipts, you back down like hoes. Then pretend you're too busy or above it all
nikkas is hitting me with gifs and smileys. WHERE YA THOUGHTS AT?
Simple ass nikkas
some good juelz right here.
Goat poster
KANG LIFE
Elzhi got 40 racks from his fans!!
He could have recorded a tape in his bedroom with a couple Black Milk tracks and then a couple hungry Detroit producers.
put it out.
and been GOOD.
FUKK IS WRONG WIT DUDE??
There is no excuse when young nikkas like Tory Lanez is recording TWO projects in a week and putting them out.
He could have recorded a tape in his bedroom with a couple Black Milk tracks and then a couple hungry Detroit producers.
put it out.
and been GOOD.
FUKK IS WRONG WIT DUDE??
There is no excuse when young nikkas like Tory Lanez is recording TWO projects in a week and putting them out.
El negrito de tejas
Fukk the govt I got my own Deficit
The people paid for an album and he never delivered.
They deserve their money back and more for time being wasted
They deserve their money back and more for time being wasted
