Sorry Jay, I'm Not Buying It

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I'm rooting for jay business wise with this move. Everybody preaching that black owned business shyt, well here it is.
this is why some folks that be on that black power movement keeps saying DONT wait for a mass group to follow you. its too many haters and negative nancy's out there. They will not understand until after the fact. and they will hold you back in the process. This is proof of that very thing. some of the same people yelling blacks should own businesses. is the same ones clowning jay because they like the fact their spotify account is cheaper. even if that means spotify is cheating a bunch of artists(black ones too) out of their due.

Spotify is Walmart grocery stores of music

Tidal if done right could be Whole Foods/Trader joes.


and one of them is black owned. showing people how to play it fairly by giving his early team members(artists) a piece of the pie(% in the company).
 

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Pretty obvious strategy here.

From December 2013:
Sehdev said that while Jay Z remains popular with Americans of all ages, his brand is missing one crucial piece needed to persuade them to spend hard-earned money on the products he touts: authenticity.

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The survey found that Jay Z scored 70% lower in the categories of trustworthiness and honesty than did celebrities like Morgan Freeman and Jennifer Lawrence, an issue Sehdev chalks up to Jay's intense focus on making money seemingly however he can.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/jay-...-dont-trust-him-anymore-2013-12#ixzz3aWDuDgqJ


But I salute him for being active. I hope Jay Z continues to use his resources and his voice to help others even if Tidal never takes off and it doesn't help his brand.
 
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How many of us do you think there are in the U.S.?

Jay-Z think we are the ones keeping Nike, Apple, and Spotify afloat?
The buying power of Black Americans is equal to the 16th largest country in the world :usure:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/10/black-buying-power-to-rea_n_1086369.html

Him bringing this shyt up in a freestyle doesn't mean he isn't trying to get all types of customers though.
His point is valid.
Why is everyone mad at him for starting a business?

Were y'all mad at Lowes because there was already Home Depot?
Were y'all mad at CVS because there was already Walgreens?

Why is this Tidal shyt such a big deal to so many people?
Why wouldn't you want to see black owned corporations?
 
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Jay Z is silent on issues affecting the Black community: Black people are mad.

Jay Z speaks on issues affecting the Black community: Black people are mad.


:francis:


Black people want everything done on their terms when other Black people are involved and have none of those same expectations when the person is white. Many Black entrepreneurs know that their most critical customers are fellow Black people, and if you mess up you don't get a second chance from them to mess up again.
 

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Jay Z is silent on issues affecting the Black community: Black people are mad.

Jay Z speaks on issues affecting the Black community: Black people are mad.


:francis:


Black people want everything done on their terms when other Black people are involved and have none of those same expectations when the person is white. Many Black entrepreneurs know that their most critical customers are fellow Black people, and if you mess up you don't get a second chance from them to mess up again.
What do you think is the appropriate Black people response to Jay Z's charity? Do we have to actually subscribe to Tidal or just refrain from criticizing Tidal? Should we build him a statue?
 

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Given the topic of discussion, I thought it was automatically known I was talking about paid services. Let me clarify even further then.

Paying to stream music on the internet is a dying/dead practice.


iTunes is also not a streaming service, it is a media player. :snoop: If you mean iTunes Radio, which also failed, then thank you for proving my point.
But it isn't. How can it be dying if Spotify is gaining in paid subscribers? I'm dropping facts only.
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Interesting progress in thread
the JayZ lovers are loving too much

JayZ IS absolutely doing every inch of this for profit for taking mad Ls with Tidal

Now, knowing he is just doing it for profit but hey all businesses do that, so why hate on Macy's son?
Cuz ya'll portraying him as a black messiah
nobody saying corporations that donate for good causes but only for marketing reasons... nobody calls them god-like, nobody on them company's nuts
Meanwhile the coli on Jay's nuts

See the difference?
ya'll saying haters keep hating for no reason... no wrong!
you keep loving for no reason!!!
 

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What do you think is the appropriate Black people response to Jay Z's charity? Do we have to actually subscribe to Tidal or just refrain from criticizing Tidal? Should we build him a statue?
hey, black folks for the most part are not balling. so if you dont have $20 a month. Dont pay it. you aint got it. But DO NOT bad mouth another black business. Especially not in front of white people. So unless you found Out jay was rapin black artists and cheating other black folks. You keep ya mouth shut and walk the other way. thats exactly how all of the other nationalities/races have been playing it since the beginning of time. i see, us black folks need a class in race etiquette.
 

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Interesting progress in thread
the JayZ lovers are loving too much

JayZ IS absolutely doing every inch of this for profit for taking mad Ls with Tidal

Now, knowing he is just doing it for profit but hey all businesses do that, so why hate on Macy's son?
Cuz ya'll portraying him as a black messiah
nobody saying corporations that donate for good causes but only for marketing reasons... nobody calls them god-like, nobody on them company's nuts
Meanwhile the coli on Jay's nuts

See the difference?
ya'll saying haters keep hating for no reason... no wrong!
you keep loving for no reason!!!
again you sound like an idiot. please tell me you're not black. pretty please.

cause if you are. you are the type that holds black people back. no one, not one person has called jayz a messiah, or king, or X. Not one person. Only yall have done that with your flawed logic.

If you are black(if not, do not respond), you would understand that every black business is another win for black people as a whole. WAKE THE ...UP.

http://www.symphoniclure.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Wake-UP-Lawrence-Fishburne-620x350.jpg

You personally do not have to invest in his company if you dont want or need his product. but SHUT UP with the hate on your own. learn from the other races. They dont do that only we do that. time to learn how to play the game.
 

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I fukks with Jay, but I'm not stupid. He's trying to co-opt the press on Tidal and turn it into a Big Man vs. Little man, underdog, black vs. white type of rap feud. He's trying to politic the narrative and make it about the evil white corporation vs. the poor black hustler from Marcy trying to fight the system.

No Jay. You got caught being greedy and out of touch. You don't get to "come home" and make it a hip-hop thing. You don't get to trot Sigel out on stage under the guise of being that relatable dude that's about us.

This ain't about slavery, this ain't about Mike Brown, you don't get to make a martyr of yourself by mentioning those things when it's convenient. The nerve of using those terms while promoting a service that's all about charging more of my hard earned money to provide an inferior product and line your pockets.

You compete with Spotify by providing a better service or a cheaper service, like anything else in the market.
Ether pt 2
 

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Jigga Warriors :mjlol: Sean really got yall out here paying for something he doesn't even really own and using black tragedies he never gave a fukk about before to guilt yall into buying it. All of a sudden now he spittin free styles and info is being "leaked" as his latest business venture fights to stay relevant.


u see this exposed you. you could have made perfectly valuable critiques without the ad hominem and personal attacks. this shows you just dont like jay, and this is personal. when y’all stick to the facts, you cant really prove ya points. when you start dreaming up imaginary scenarios and passing it off as truth, then we in trouble. you the type of dude gawker would be happy to hire. its the type of confusion these desperate for clicks and ads media outlets live off. gawker might be hiring. u could give us a think piece about it.:mjlol:
 

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hey, black folks for the most part are not balling. so if you dont have $20 a month. Dont pay it. you aint got it. But DO NOT bad mouth another black business. Especially not in front of white people. So unless you found Out jay was rapin black artists and cheating other black folks. You keep ya mouth shut and walk the other way. thats exactly how all of the other nationalities/races have been playing it since the beginning of time. i see, us black folks need a class in race etiquette.

What if its an unpopular black person like 50 Cent or Dame Dash? Do they deserve the same pass?

i see, us black folks need a class in race etiquette.

We got the reverse lesson. We were taught that any thing white/european was automatically more desirable than anything black. Jay Z was a big proponent of that type of thinking. I hope he has learned better...
 
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I fukks with Jay, but I'm not stupid. He's trying to co-opt the press on Tidal and turn it into a Big Man vs. Little man, underdog, black vs. white type of rap feud. He's trying to politic the narrative and make it about the evil white corporation vs. the poor black hustler from Marcy trying to fight the system.

No Jay. You got caught being greedy and out of touch. You don't get to "come home" and make it a hip-hop thing. You don't get to trot Sigel out on stage under the guise of being that relatable dude that's about us.

This ain't about slavery, this ain't about Mike Brown, you don't get to make a martyr of yourself by mentioning those things when it's convenient. The nerve of using those terms while promoting a service that's all about charging more of my hard earned money to provide an inferior product and line your pockets.

You compete with Spotify by providing a better service or a cheaper service, like anything else in the market.
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