Sorry Jay, I'm Not Buying It

[Edub]

of course it would be nice if it was a lot cheaper. but understand where that price is coming from.

lets take it back a bit. To the days of purchasing music(everyone isnt bootlegging music via the downloading even right now. some people STILL buy music).

So lets say i'm a music lover. and i'm also a music BUYER. i usually by say 2 albums per month.

2 albums = Let me get that new Drake $10 to $13 ( depending on who you get it from) & Let me get that kendrick another $10 to $13)

thats $20.00 before taxes on the low end. for just two albums.

You pay Tidal $20.00 per month and you get more then just two albums. and not only that, you can get those albums in an extremely high fidelity audio.

Now what yall are saying is, WE STILL DONT CARE ABOUT quality sound. WE will be willing to pay $6.00 a month for a small mp3 file. that sounds ok but no where near as good as the tidal file type.

This is the equivalent of back in the day when we use to tape stuff off of the radio before it came out. it didnt sound good at all. sure it was bearable if you really liked the artist. but it was no where NEAR CD quality or even an actual Professional Audio Tape. So yall are requesting that radio recorded tape deck version for cheap. and they are trying to sell you high end audio. In addition they are trying to make sure artists get paid their proper due. That costs money too. basically spotify and the likes can let you pay a small amt for their service because they are also jacking artists for their money. so they dont care if its a fair amt for the artists. they take such a huge chunk of that add revenue. THey can give you and I a huge discount. on top of the fact its a lesser quality file.

I get it with the sound quality...ok I'm wit ya. But that 20.00 has to be paid every month...when I bought a cd I paid once but kept the music forever...you can't keep a streaming service forever with a one time payment. Spotify,Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, pandora...they all get this logic...u can't charge the same for a product that has an expiration as you can for a product that last forever...which is why they charge 6.99 or less many times. JZ wants you to pay 20.00 over and over for his cd...that will never work when it's largely available for free basically. With the perks if he dropped the price he may break even I'd guess, but spotify and those companies don't charge what they charge and offer the artists what they do for just any ol' reason. They do it because it is the optimal formula for insuring a large consumer base and decent profit margin based on the service music provides. JZ got a hair up is rectum (pause) and suddenly just thought he could rearrange the game...consumer services biz is a lil different

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

I thought trying to profit from 'Occupy Wallstreet' was bad, but using Mike Brown/Taryvon Martin's name to push an app is a whole new dirtbag level.

 

[Edub]

you think $10 a month is to much?

It is when others offer nearly the same service for free and it is when that service isn't as highly valued to the cosumer as the starting price point suggests

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

It is when others offer nearly the same service for free and it is when that service isn't as highly valued to the cosumer as the starting price point suggests

the free subscriptions have adds, so yeah tidal is same price as the competitions entry price.

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

I get it with the sound quality...ok I'm wit ya. But that 20.00 has to be paid every month...when I bought a cd I paid once but kept the music forever...you can't keep a streaming service forever with a one time payment. Spotify,Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, pandora...they all get this logic...u can't charge the same for a product that has an expiration as you can for a product that last forever...which is why they charge 6.99 or less many times. JZ wants you to pay 20.00 over and over for his cd...that will never work when it's largely available for free basically. With the perks if he dropped the price he may break even I'd guess, but spotify and those companies don't charge what they charge and offer the artists what they do for just any ol' reason. They do it because it is the optimal formula for insuring a large consumer base and decent profit margin based on the service music provides. JZ got a hair up is rectum (pause) and suddenly just thought he could rearrange the game...consumer services biz is a lil different

why are you only mentioning the 20 subscription and ignoring you can get a 10 subscription?

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

LETS Tag baphomet as another supposed black person that doesnt understand the race game.

Do you think all koreans business owners give money back to koreans that are not in their family/friend circle? HELL NO. but yet we see them doing well with their "GROUP" economics. The only way you can have that is by having a large GROUP of business owners and consumers of the same race supporting one another. or at the very minimum dont hate on one another.

You are not obligated to give money to charity, in order for your business to be considered a black business or a korean business or a jewish business, etc. learn how to play chess. and to your knowledge are you trying to tell me jay z has never giving anything to the black community? How the hell would you know this?

so since you checkin this man's pockets. lets go ahead and really check. black man HATER.

https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/jay-z

Whoops ^^^ i think that should cover even your flawed criteria for being a BLACK business owner therefore it being a WIN for black people.




https://www.looktothestars.org/charity/playpumps









Even this move that most didnt like, ended up being some doe for charity.




Oh we aint done yet. and dont skim and reply to me about this or that.





Dont tell me its too much to read. if it aint too much for you to hate on. it sure as hell aint to much for you to read. YOU TOLD US JAY Z DONT DO ISH FOR BLACK PEOPLE. WELL ....YOU LIED.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

all them water for Africa marketing ish was done to promote American gangster
wake up fool

and LOL at bolding 2.5K
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Even I got more cash then that sucka!!!!

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

all them water for Africa marketing ish was done to promote American gangster
wake up fool

and LOL at bolding 2.5K
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Even I got more cash then that sucka!!!!

why did you ignore all the other things dude said jayz done

why do you feel jayz should have to give back?

do you expect bill gates or steve jobs to give back?

 

[Edub]

why are you only mentioning the 20 subscription and ignoring you can get a 10 subscription?

Do they have a free offer...do they have an offer of 6.99 or under cuz that's about where they need to be...a lot of people don't mind adds when it's free(call it cheap if u want)...the bet he's making is that there are enough music fans that want to for go adds and fork over a minimum of $10 every month...music is too widely available for free for that expectation...his competitors include download sites, CDs,radio,satellite radio,other streaming services,hip hop blog sites,YouTube,cabletv radio services...honestly the list goes on and on of his competition for market share...$10 a month is high for the current value of the product. Economics 101...supply and demand...there is an overwhelming amount of music supply available for free currently so therefore the demand is light...the only way he survives is dropping the price point

 

[Ensoniq]

Spotify rules

Fukk gayz

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

Do they have a free offer...do they have an offer of 6.99 or under cuz that's about where they need to be...a lot of people don't mind adds when it's free(call it cheap if u want)...the bet he's making is that there are enough music fans that want to for go adds and fork over a minimum of $10 every month...music is too widely available for free for that expectation...his competitors include download sites, CDs,radio,satellite radio,other streaming services,hip hop blog sites,YouTube,cabletv radio services...honestly the list goes on and on of his competition for market share...$10 a month is high for the current value of the product. Economics 101...supply and demand...there is an overwhelming amount of music supply available for free currently so therefore the demand is light...the only way he survives is dropping the price point

you didn't answer my question, I asked why you fail to mention the entry level price. you replied by asking if they have a free option smh

damn 10dollars is to much for people? if 10 a month is to much its best you don't listen to music and go find a job or do overtime.

 

[Will Ross]

Jay last album was used as promotions for a damn phone.

 

[OG Talk]

It's about cats making it their duty to find something negative to say about anything he does.

When is the last time someone had something positive to say about one of Dame's moves?




Or Birdman ?



Or Diddy?





Or Master P?




Or 50?




ALL of these Black rap CEO's get criticized as crooks, clowns and phonies on the coli..



Jay-Z ain't unique...




His Stans are....

 

[JayGatsby]

the thing is jay-z wont lose....

this wont flop,this can only get bigger,like it or not

 

[player611]

He should partner with a cell phone provider like Spotify did. If you're a Tmobile customer, streaming music using Spotify doesn't cost you any data. I can keep my free 1 GB of high speed data a month and not have to worry about going over since its essentially free to stream. If I listened to tidal as much as I did Spotify, I'd have to pay an extra $20 a month for data to accommodate. Adding the $9.99 on top of that, I'm paying $29.99 a month to listen to music with tidal vs. $9.99 a month to listen to Spotify.

Jay should get with Verizon or at&t to offer the same deal. It may be enough to get more people to subscribe

*Edit* upon further research, it is in fact "free" to stream tidal on Tmobile. I may go ahead and make the switch

 

[BreezyH]

of course it would be nice if it was a lot cheaper. but understand where that price is coming from.

lets take it back a bit. To the days of purchasing music(everyone isnt bootlegging music via the downloading even right now. some people STILL buy music).

So lets say i'm a music lover. and i'm also a music BUYER. i usually by say 2 albums per month.

2 albums = Let me get that new Drake $10 to $13 ( depending on who you get it from) & Let me get that kendrick another $10 to $13)

thats $20.00 before taxes on the low end. for just two albums.

You pay Tidal $20.00 per month and you get more then just two albums. and not only that, you can get those albums in an extremely high fidelity audio.

Now what yall are saying is, WE STILL DONT CARE ABOUT quality sound. WE will be willing to pay $6.00 a month for a small mp3 file. that sounds ok but no where near as good as the tidal file type.

This is the equivalent of back in the day when we use to tape stuff off of the radio before it came out. it didnt sound good at all. sure it was bearable if you really liked the artist. but it was no where NEAR CD quality or even an actual Professional Audio Tape. So yall are requesting that radio recorded tape deck version for cheap. and they are trying to sell you high end audio. In addition they are trying to make sure artists get paid their proper due. That costs money too. basically spotify and the likes can let you pay a small amt for their service because they are also jacking artists for their money. so they dont care if its a fair amt for the artists. they take such a huge chunk of that add revenue. THey can give you and I a huge discount. on top of the fact its a lesser quality file.

yea but you buying 2 cds a month is your choice when you walk into the store. once you hand over your card info, they taking that money out.

also, the artists drove fans to mp3-life as much as anything. remember hearing artist Y's first single and it being greaT? you went to the record store, bought the 15-track album and it had maybe 3 hot songs - inlcuding the one you already heard. mp3s were a great way of filtering out what you didn't like.

futhermore, only a small percentage of people are audiophiles like that where they could tell the difference. and if you're favorite artist is gucci or something, is clearer audio really going to matter?